New wires but no plans

doningtonphil

During the summer, openreach were busy hanging new fibre cables from the telegraph poles all the way through our village (Eaglesfield, Dumfries &Galloway). The engineers did it was for FTTP abd would be available by the end of the year.
Anyway, checking on openteach website abd it says they have no plans to install in this area in the near future.
Other villages and random locations connected to the same exchange (Kirtlebridge) already have fttp up abd running.
What had happened. Do we have any how of getting fttp?

M25

It's a wait and see game. Your village will be on a list with some planned completion but no guarantee unless there's some sort of local contract..

I seen them doing FTTP wiring in my village a good 7 months before I could order and I watched liked a hawk all that time. I even spoke to the guys doing the work. Vodafone were the first to offer then the flood gates opened for everyone else.

Register your interest with the ISPs and they'll be in touch

They're actually back the now (FibreUK vans) with a new cable all they could say was it was an OR contract which I assume OR are doing for another supplier (so more choice and lower prices hopefully).

Good luck and you'll love FTTP. FTTP should be made compulsory.

iniltous

OR don’t do work for other providers , so if the FibreUK ( whoever they are ) we’re working on behalf of Openreach , the beneficiary is Openreach .

Openreach  don’t sell services to create other networks let alone subcontract that out, ….,Openreach do use contractors to build Openreach network, so chances are FibreUK are simply a contractor working on behalf of OR , the network under construction won’t offer a choice against OR , they will be adding to the OR network.

M25

iniltous said:

OR don’t do work for other providers , so if the FibreUK ( whoever they are ) we’re working on behalf of Openreach , the beneficiary is Openreach .

Openreach  don’t sell services to create other networks let alone subcontract that out, ….,Openreach do use contractors to build Openreach network, so chances are FibreUK are simply a contractor working on behalf of OR , the network under construction won’t offer a choice against OR , they will be adding to the OR network.

That's interesting I did wonder when he said OR. OR already have FTTP at all the points (including in my street) I've seen them.

J_B

doningtonphil said:

During the summer, openreach were busy hanging new fibre cables from the telegraph poles all the way through our village

They did similar here - turned out it was for a local 'big' business who were having a 3.5mile 'dedicated fibre line' (I think that's the correct wording) which is exclusive to them and we can't tap into it

matelodave

It took the best part of 18 months before we got service after the cables were strung from the poles where we live

Apparently that was the easy bit, the difficulty was unblocking or relaying ducts between us and the network back to the exchange. the even more irritating thing was that just two weeks after we'd gone live with new faster fibre, Anglian Water managed to dig up and damage the the newly laid ducts and fibre cables and it took another four weeks to get it all re-instated due to the amount of damage and the requirements for traffic controls in narrow country roads.

Civil works in some areas can be difficult, disruptive and very expensive so although you might have some of the infrastructure installed, it has to be connected back into the network and commissioned before it becomes available for use. The guys and gals installing the infrastructure often have no idea what other stuff needs to be done before it gets put into service.

onomatopoeia99

J_B said:

doningtonphil said:

During the summer, openreach were busy hanging new fibre cables from the telegraph poles all the way through our village

They did similar here - turned out it was for a local 'big' business who were having a 3.5mile 'dedicated fibre line' (I think that's the correct wording) which is exclusive to them and we can't tap into it

A private circuit, also commonly known as a "leased line".  A LOT more expensive than fibre broadband, expert moneysavers would recoil in horror at the price,

J_B

onomatopoeia99 said:

A private circuit, also commonly known as a "leased line".  A LOT more expensive than fibre broadband, expert moneysavers would recoil in horror at the price,

Indeed - the 'man in the pub' thought it cost them over 200k!!!

doningtonphil

Thanks for the replies (and well done for deciphering the hopeless spelling in my original message!)
One engineer did say the cable was specifically for one house a couple hundred metres past our house that wasnt getting the minimum guaranteed speed.  He said that if it were ever to be offered to us too, then they would have to run a cable back from that house to ours.  I asked if provision could be made on the pole by our house and he said that was a good idea, and there seems to be some looped cable there now.

The guy at that house has advised that he hasnt had any upgrade in service.

When we first had FTTC, the Openreach engineers sais that Eaglesfield was a nightmare and that they were basically having to run fibre cables almost to the village from the exchange (2 miles away) and then back to the exchange and then back to the cabinets.

So I imagine the long wait you guys had after having poles installed will be even longer for us.

Frustratining that the cabels are there but the Openreach checker sstated they 'currently have no plans'....