Speeding - first offence

Troytempest

Licence details form goes to same place.

Car_54

Troytempest said:

Licence details form goes to same place.

It would if it were in the same envelope. Could you prove that if necessary?

Troytempest

Just to update - the highly efficient West Mercia Police have written to confirm receipt of the cheque and receipt of the driving licence details.......wonder if they are that efficient at catching real criminals!!!

Nasqueron

Troytempest said:

Just to update - the highly efficient West Mercia Police have written to confirm receipt of the cheque and receipt of the driving licence details.......wonder if they are that efficient at catching real criminals!!!

Traffic police catch traffic criminals who are real, the association between speeding and problems is well established

Mildly_Miffed

Troytempest said:

Just to update - the highly efficient West Mercia Police have written to confirm receipt of the cheque and receipt of the driving licence details.......wonder if they are that efficient at catching real criminals!!!

You do realise that it's civilian back-office staff who process the paperwork, right?

But I'm sure we can all agree that 56 is a much bigger number than 40 - about 40% bigger.

On the basis that a "real criminal" is generally defined as somebody who has committed a "real" offence that's "really" defined in a "real" act of parliament...
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/27/section/84

Given that your observation seems to have been so lacking that you spotted neither signage nor camera, how sure are you that you'd have spotted other hazards?

Baldytyke88

TooManyPoints said:

Yup. Fixed penalty (£100 and three points) will be the offer.

Make sure when accepting it that you submit your driving licence details as directed. Although you have probably already done so (when identifying yourself as he driver) you must do it again as part of the fixed penalty acceptance.

If you get a fixed penalty notice for a motoring offence, you do not need to give your driving licence to the police or fixed penalty office (FPO).

TooManyPoints

If you get a fixed penalty notice for a motoring offence, you do not need to give your driving licence to the police or fixed penalty office (FPO).

We'll leave aside the fact that you do not receive a Fixed Penalty Notice for speeding. You receive a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty, which is something quite different.

But that apart, you are quite right, It has not been a requirement to submit your licence when accepting such an offer since 30th November 2022. But you do have to provide your DL details (even though you have probably already done so when identifying yourself as the driver). Failure to do so would mean you did not meet the requirements of the fixed penalty offer, the offer will be withdrawn and you will be prosecuted.

But why you should mention giving your licence to anybody is a bit of a mystery because, as far as I can see, nobody suggested it was necessary to do so.