C.U.P Parking Enforcement charge. Is it worth appealing?

Gr1pr

I doubt that Popla mentioned the word FINE, not allowed   !

Clearly Popla decided that it was beyond their remit,  ergo only a judge could decide, in court,  if it ever gets to a hearing 

Coupon-mad

Did you read the latest POPLA Decision, OP?

magjp90

Gr1pr said:

I doubt that Popla mentioned the word FINE, not allowed   !

Clearly Popla decided that it was beyond their remit,  ergo only a judge could decide, in court,  if it ever gets to a hearing 

Sorry, they basically said that 'the parking charge has been issued correctly'.

 "I note that the appellant has provided a copy of the operator’s original response to their appeal but the details match the information contained in the operator’s submission to POPLA. After considering the evidence from both parties, the driver parked in a no parking area and therefore did not comply with the terms and conditions of the site. As such, I am satisfied the parking charge has been issued correctly and I must refuse the appeal."

magjp90

Coupon-mad said:

Did you read the latest POPLA Decision, OP?

Is that the one in the exact same spot as my case? If so, I have literally just read it, thanks! 

Coupon-mad

magjp90 said:

Good afternoon, 

Sorry, this is my first post, so I hope it's allowed and in the correct section.

I'm hoping someone would be able to help.

I have received this parking charge notice in the post. 

Is it worth appealing?

The driver wasn't parked, as you can see the lights are on and hazard lights are on. It's a layby towards a delivery yard. Basically the car park to the right is a Sainsburys car park, which was full. The passenger had to collect a parcel from the Argos inside said Sainsburys. So the car pulled over, passenger got out and the car drove off and parked up afterwards. 

The car will have only been dormant for a couple of seconds, (30 seconds max) which would be visible in the video footage recorded.

Would it be worth appealing in your opinion? And are C.U.P a legitimate company, what would happen if I were to ignore this?

Thanks for your help. 

 

kryten3000 said:

There is no clear demarcation between the "managed" area and the public highway. 

Normally double yellow lines enforce restrictions between the centre line of the highway and the property boundary, which is usually the wall of the building. 

If there was a contravention, it is a council matter (parked on double yellow lines) and enforcement should be by a traffic warden or civil enforcement officer.

Do let me know if you get a claim.  

DE_612183 said:

you didn't park in a car park - I don't see how they have even come up with tis.

do you know if there are any signs around?

I presume this is where you parked?

Coupon-mad said:

You are allowed to set down and pick up passengers on DYL. That's the normal meaning of double yellows on the public highway (they are there to allow exempt activity)..

If only POPLA were not briefed, funded and leaned on by the BPA they might be free to make proper decisions.  Ignore them.

This would nowhere if ever they tried a court claim AND the angle of the images shows us that the CCTV is placed waaaay up high on a building and there are little/no signs telling drivers about the surveillance.  It is covert (which is illegal) and also it's disproportionate and intrusive to use cameras at this location where they film every vehicle and pedestrian.

This place either needs some kerbside bollards and large warning signs if they don't want people pulling over, or signs plus on foot, overt ticketing to properly deter.

There's no deterrent here. It's a deliberate trap. It's also marked with kerb edges as a layby anyway!

No driver knows they're being filmed and why would you not use a layby with DYL as they are intended, to set down and pick up a passenger? Of course you can.

POPLA DECISION UPDATE

magjp90 said:

POPLA basically said that 'the parking charge has been issued correctly'.

 "I note that the appellant has provided a copy of the operator’s original response to their appeal but the details match the information contained in the operator’s submission to POPLA. After considering the evidence from both parties, the driver parked in a no parking area and therefore did not comply with the terms and conditions of the site. As such, I am satisfied the parking charge has been issued correctly and I must refuse the appeal."

Utter scam, the whole thing.

The Government needs to act quickly because PPC World are doing whatever they like this past year.

magjp90

A slight update:

C.U.P. have now passed it onto a debt collection agency who are claiming the fee is now £160. 🙄

I'm planning on just ignoring it and seeing if they'll try and threaten with court, but I'm just wondering whether it'll affect my credit score etc.

Thanks.

Car1980

Nope. Only if they made a court claim and you ignored it, or if it went all the way to a hearing (very unlikely) and you lost and you still didn't pay within 28 days.

magjp90

Car1980 said:

Nope. Only if they made a court claim and you ignored it, or if it went all the way to a hearing (very unlikely) and you lost and you still didn't pay within 28 days.

Ok. Thanks for the response! 😀

Gloglow1

magjp90 said:

Car1980 said:

Nope. Only if they made a court claim and you ignored it, or if it went all the way to a hearing (very unlikely) and you lost and you still didn't pay within 28 days.

Ok. Thanks for the response! 😀

Just wanted to check how this has progressed for you with cup? My unsuccessful popla appeal at same spot has come through. 

Have you written to mp at all? Hopefully yours hasn’t got more serious with court? It’s utter madness with this one and what popla think they are seeing, no grace period, no time to pull in and check signs - it’s not allowed and they don’t have exact period of ‘parking’ - and it’s not even a car park!! 

If there’s anything you’ve done with your ticket that has helped (or not helped!) pls let me know. I’d really like to resolve this without more angst - if there’s such a chance :-/

Coupon-mad

Gloglow1 said:

magjp90 

Just wanted to check how this has progressed for you with cup? My unsuccessful popla appeal at same spot has come through. 

Have you written to mp at all? Hopefully yours hasn’t got more serious with court? It’s utter madness with this one and what popla think they are seeing, no grace period, no time to pull in and check signs - it’s not allowed and they don’t have exact period of ‘parking’ - and it’s not even a car park!! 

If there’s anything you’ve done with your ticket that has helped (or not helped!) pls let me know. I’d really like to resolve this without more angst - if there’s such a chance :-/

It's very important that people like you (both of you) tell the Government that you have no faith in POPLA or the IAS and that there must be the SINGLE APPEALS SERVICE that the Parking (Code of Practice) Act 2019 *almost* promised.

AND THAT THE ENRICHMENT OF 'DEBT RECOVERY FEES' MUST BE COMPLETELY BANNED. DISPUTED CASES ARE NOT SOLVED BY DEMANDING MORE MONEY AND ENGINEERING A 'PAYMENT PLAN'.

Responses are invited to the Consultation now:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6617396/parking-code-of-practice-consultation-8-weeks-from-11th-july-2025/p1

You may want to wait till you get your first £170 demand, so you can speak from experience re both those matters.

But do it this month or in August at the latest pleeease! We will discuss it on that thread.