PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.

Splitting house and selling part of it

Hi I am in the process of Splitting my house and selling part of it. I will continue to live in the remaining part.
I have planning, a new address, services are getting installed in the new year.
My question is reguarding the mortgage and land registry, I have talked to my mortgage provider, who were very unhelful! I have approached a solicitor who said nothing can be done until the properties are split.
So when do I change the land registry to show the split, and when I do this will it not effect the mortgage deeds?


Snootchie Bootchies!

Comments

  • Flugelhorn
    Flugelhorn Posts: 7,196 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    I would have thought your mortgage provider would have had something to say about it as I presume they have an interest in the whole house, including the bit that you are planning to sell off? Just thinking that they loaned on your house being of a certain size / value and now it is going to be smaller ? worth less? 

    Can imagine less of an issue if there is the mortgage is low 
  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 49,281 Ambassador
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Academoney Grad Name Dropper
    Do you have planning permission? Building regs sign off?
    I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.
  • user1977
    user1977 Posts: 17,428 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Seventh Anniversary Photogenic Name Dropper
    Bit late to be thinking about this sort of thing! I expect your lender will not consent to whatever construction work is required, so you'd need to remortgage to some sort of development finance in order to do the work in the first place. On completion of a sale, it's (normally) the buyer's application for registration which has the effect of splitting the title. If you still needed the same secured loan over the remainder of the property then either the lender grants a partial release of their charge (if they are willing to) or you remortgage to a residential mortgage for your remaining property.

    I would seek advice from a (more helpful) solicitor first though.
  • silvercar said:
    Do you have planning permission? Building regs sign off?

    yes, I have mentioned that

    Snootchie Bootchies!
  • Flugelhorn
    Flugelhorn Posts: 7,196 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    What have you asked the mortgage provider to do? is it to get permission to do this?
  • What have you asked the mortgage provider to do? is it to get permission to do this?

    Yes, explaned everything in detail to them,

    Snootchie Bootchies!
  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 49,281 Ambassador
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Academoney Grad Name Dropper
    The up front way of doing this is to seek consent from the lender and agree the mortgage being moved to the part you will remain with. The lender may want valuations of the likely values once the work is completed, they may only be prepared to lend a smaller amount and require you to repay some of the mortgage on sale of the new half property especially if your remaining home is worth less than the original (as the LTV will be lower).

    Less up front ways, including redeeming this mortgage by re-mortgaging your new home with a different lender, would get round the consent issue but probably breach the original mortgage t&cs.
    I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.
  • eddddy
    eddddy Posts: 17,816 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 12 December 2024 at 11:45AM

    I assume you have a residential mortgage.
    • Splitting a house into 2 would be considered development.  It's extremely unlikely that a lender would consent to you doing that while you have a residential mortgage.
    • If you've told your lender you've already started doing it, I'm not sure what action they might take - for example, tell you to stop, threaten to demand that you repay your mortgage, etc.

    I guess somebody who didn't care about breaking their residential mortgage t&cs might have approached it like this:
    • Split the house into 2 without telling their mortgage lender
    • Put one of the houses up for sale
    • Apply for a mortgage on the remaining house (with a different lender)
    •  Then on completion day - do all the following:
    • - Redeem the original mortgage on the original house with the original lender
    • - Sell one of the new houses (by splitting the title and transferring part of it)
    • - Take out the new mortgage with the new lender on the other new house (to live in)

    But it could get 'unpleasant' if the original mortgage lender finds out what's going on.

    And a new mortgage lender might be nervous about lending on a newly converted house, with no warranty, that has presumably been converted by an 'amateur developer' with no track record in development.

     

Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 350.2K Banking & Borrowing
  • 252.8K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.1K Spending & Discounts
  • 243.1K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 597.5K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 176.5K Life & Family
  • 256.1K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.