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One Parking Solution Notice to Keeper Parking Charge

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  • KeithP
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    Don't lose sight of these words in my earlier post...

    KeithP said:
    Notice that the Notice to Keeper has a Date of Sending of 29th November 2024 and a Contravention Date of 9th November 2024.

    That means that the parking company have no way of transferring any driver's liability to the keeper unless you tell them who was driving.
  • Gr1pr said:
    Hi, you definitely won't be lying about not receiving paperwork, that is not a valid defence, otherwise everyone would be using it, the letter was presumed to be delivered 2 business days later, they don't have to prove receipt of it 

    Whilst you do have a permit for where you officially stop and park, its not for anywhere else, especially not areas or traps overseen by the shysters OPS.  There are over 170 private parking companies issuing circa 14.6 million PCNs per annum, in a currently unregulated industry.  If course its unfair, they have always made it unfair 

    Regulation is wayyyyy overdue and might happen next year, but that doesn't help this case here in 2024

    But coming here for help has meant that you can get the best advice there is, with people who have knowledge, wisdom and experience, usually due to themselves or friends or relatives receiving PCNs in the past. ( Or nasty clampers. )

    I doubt that the timestamps on the CCTV or ANPR cameras are incorrect, so it probably was 7 minutes, stopped isnt parked but the parking company won't care about that distinction, or your parking troubles, or anything else 

    Focus on the facts, appeal based on no keeper liability, as keeper, no blabbing about who was driving, even if its obvious, no stories either, bare bones only, closely following the advice by coupon mad or parking mad

    Thank you!
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 16 April at 12:05AM
    Cancaminin said:

    I've received today - 7th December - a Notice to Keeper Parking Charge for a contravention I allegedly was responsible for on 9th November at 18.40 - 18.47.

    First thing I thought was: this is a scam, because I have never parked there, reason being that I live around the corner of the place. Then I have tried to recollect what it may have happened. 

    So, the only thing I can think of is that, driving around that night, I might have stopped for a few minutes there, while in the car. I'm not even sure that I had stopped there, despite the charge saying that, because it's one of the spot, by a petrol station, that I use to reverse. I would never ever dream of parking anywhere where I'm not supposed to and leave the car there.

    I've reached such a level of anxiety related to the situation that I've been looking to move somewhere else for some time now and I'm now taking it in consideration more seriously.
    Despite being already quite anxious about driving, parking and so on, I don't want to go insane stressing about contraventions.



    KeithP said:
    Notice that the Notice to Keeper has a Date of Sending of 29th November 2024 and a Contravention Date of 9th November 2024.

    That means that the parking company have no way of transferring any driver's liability to the keeper unless you tell them who was driving.
        [click on the image to go to GSV]
    ...is that right?
    Cancaminin said:
    More likely I was not even in one of the 3 spaces there, it might have been more where the cross is, since I was probably there to reverse. I don't believe I was there for almost 7 minutes with the engine running!

    Now that I've seen the pictures I remember, I had stopped by to let my daughter go to tesco, they also put photo of her rushing to the shop, can they do that?
    As Keith said, I was not occupying any of the bay, apart from a inch of the front left tyre.. The shoots show clearly that I was in the car all the time.



    Your car isn't on the land they say it is.

    That's the pavement and dropped kerb (public highway). They have no authority or justification to film cars and people there and this breaches UK GDPR and the DPA 2018z

    I'd appeal as registered keeper NOT SAYING WHO WAS DRIVING and state that the car is pictured on the pavement and dropped kerb (outside of any private land) and if they persist with this joke PCN, you will show your evidence in a formal 'excessive surveillance' data misuse complaint to the Information Commissioner's Office.

    This is because their CCTV camera is capturing all cars and all pedestrians on the pavement, the petrol station and even the road beyond. That's illegal surveillance. They also tracked the movements of a passenger who is nothing to do with any private parking allegation...

    P.S.
    You really should have stayed on street!  Never pull off-road (at all) to drop a passenger off. That's what double yellow lines are there for.  Loads of drivers don't know that. It's one of the reasons why they exist.

    Dropping off and picking up passengers is exempt activity on-street and Councils can't use cameras.
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  • Cancaminin
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    Hello everyone,

    Just a quick update regarding the parking ticket situation: after following the excellent advice I received here for the appeal, I kept getting warning notices from ZZPS, GCTT, and bwlegal. However, today I received an email from QDR Solicitors (who even gave them my email?!), which I’ve attached for reference.

    Should I just keep ignoring them at this point, or is there anything more I should do? I’m honestly getting fed up with all of this!

    Also, I’ll be moving at the end of the month—besides notifying the DVLA, is there anyone else I should inform about my change of address?

    Thanks in advance for any further advice!


  • Gr1pr
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    edited 22 October at 5:44PM
    Ignore,  it's a zzps debt collector letter  ( it's a 14 day deadline,  not a 30 days Letter of Claim   )
  • Car1980
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    Out of interest, was the BW Legal letter titled a Letter Before Claim?
  • Cancaminin
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    Car1980 said:
    Out of interest, was the BW Legal letter titled a Letter Before Claim?

    No, the letter from BWlegal is this, although I will check with my daughter in case she had put others somewhere:
  • Gr1pr
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    It clearly states that the next letter will be the Letter of Claim 
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