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fisherjim

If they want to talk about "fraudulent addresses" maybe their members should be investigated for the multitude of postal drop boxes they register with:

I see UKPC is now registered at Eastcastle St London W1 (obviously they have moved it from the PO Box in Coventry) when their real HQ is Wooburn Green High Wycombe!

Their twisted arrogance is limitless!

Thorndorise

Cracking one from Hurley today on LinkedIn, apparently if you pay their extortion or mugs discount, it's a loophole! 

What a numpty, 

Coupon-mad

Paying over seven GRAND is a loophole?!

At least H spelt deterrence correctly this time. 

  

Johnersh

I'd quite like to petition the government to amend the limitation act 1980 to provide for a 2 year limitation period for PCNs, instead of 6 (ie treat them as a class of their own not as any other commercial contract). That would:

* Still provide adequate time for PCN notices and pre-action protocols
* ensure proceedings were commenced promptly when DVLA addresses had been obtained
* Reduce default judgments and subsequent set asides
* Eliminate actions dating back 6 years where the quality of evidence if inevitably reduced

Nellymoser

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Mr Hurley needs to focus on his industry LEARNING from practice errors they repeat over and over and over again.

These REPEAT ERRORS are a significant issue for UK citizens, businesses and the County Courts.

Castle

Johnersh said:

I'd quite like to petition the government to amend the limitation act 1980 to provide for a 2 year limitation period for PCNs, instead of 6 (ie treat them as a class of their own not as any other commercial contract). That would:

* Still provide adequate time for PCN notices and pre-action protocols
* ensure proceedings were commenced promptly when DVLA addresses had been obtained
* Reduce default judgments and subsequent set asides
* Eliminate actions dating back 6 years where the quality of evidence if inevitably reduced

You could very easily amend POFA to limit the period for the "recovery of PCN's" from the Keeper; since, the limitation act only applies to the "breach of a contract" by the driver, not the keeper.

Half_way

Johnersh said:

I'd quite like to petition the government to amend the limitation act 1980 to provide for a 2 year limitation period for PCNs, instead of 6 (ie treat them as a class of their own not as any other commercial contract). That would:

* Still provide adequate time for PCN notices and pre-action protocols
* ensure proceedings were commenced promptly when DVLA addresses had been obtained
* Reduce default judgments and subsequent set asides
* Eliminate actions dating back 6 years where the quality of evidence if inevitably reduced

Two years is still far to long, how much time do real parking tickets have?
for example railway bye law issues have 6 months 

fisherjim

What about "the repeat offenders" in the parking industry that blatantly flout Hurley's COP, the appeals process, the landowners instructions, the small claims track etc?

Umkomaas

fisherjim said:

What about "the repeat offenders" in the parking industry that blatantly flout Hurley's COP, the appeals process, the landowners instructions, the small claims track etc?

Oddly we rarely see any 'repeat offender' on this forum - and we see the widest spectrum of 'offenders'!

h2g2

Johnersh said:

I'd quite like to petition the government to amend the limitation act 1980 to provide for a 2 year limitation period for PCNs, instead of 6 (ie treat them as a class of their own not as any other commercial contract). That would:

* Still provide adequate time for PCN notices and pre-action protocols
* ensure proceedings were commenced promptly when DVLA addresses had been obtained
* Reduce default judgments and subsequent set asides
* Eliminate actions dating back 6 years where the quality of evidence if inevitably reduced

I'd also quite like an alleged debtor in any scenario to have a mechanism to force a claimant to use-it-or-lose-it. Whether that's some form letter saying something like: "I deny this debt and invoke the Limitation Act 2025 [or whatever the act gets called] to cancel the debt, unless you initiate court proceedings within the next [1/2/3/6] months [I leave the appropriate time to be decided by parliament]"; or by being able to obtain a court order to that effect essentially forcing the claimant to argue their case in court.

The fact that alleged debts can hang over someone for six years, during which time they have to keep the claimant up-to-date on their current address for service or risk a CCJ, is a problem the PPC industry is exposing. If that issue gets fixed, I see no reason to only apply that fix to PPCs.