UKPC Double Red Lines parking charge

Orchid2127

I’ve received a parking charge for being on double red lines (yes it’s Preston capitol centre….) in a private UKPC car park for 30 seconds. I was dropping my dog at the groomers with two very young children in the car and in all honestly at that time in the morning didn’t see that the lines had been very newly painted red since my previous visit. 

I’m likely in the wrong here but do I really to pay £60 for pulling up for 30 seconds? 

The_Slithy_Tove

Just follow the standard advice that is in the NEWBIES thread. No, you won't be paying.

Half_way

the double red lines on private land could mean that you can only park red cars there, and then only if they are two red cars in a row.

and to be a little more serious
As your vehicle was not parked and was unloading, has it been issued a parking charge notice (do not identify the driver)

Orchid2127

The_Slithy_Tove said:

Just follow the standard advice that is in the NEWBIES thread. No, you won't be paying.

So I’m not really sure how to complain to the landowner if I was unloading on red lines. I have read the newbies advise but it doesn’t say what to say when complaining. What do I write to complain please. Sorry I’m running on zero sleep with 2 under 3. 

Orchid2127

Half_way said:

the double red lines on private land could mean that you can only park red cars there, and then only if they are two red cars in a row.

and to be a little more serious
As your vehicle was not parked and was unloading, has it been issued a parking charge notice (do not identify the driver)

To answer the bottom part of this, it’s a “parking charge” and it says my vehicle was parked on red lines. 

Half_way

the case of Jopson vs homeguard  clearly defined that loading and or unloading is not parking, so that is hugely in your favour.
so the first point is the vehicle was not parked, and your details have been accessed without just cause as there was no parking event.
where is the car park?

Coupon-mad

Orchid2127 said:

The_Slithy_Tove said:

Just follow the standard advice that is in the NEWBIES thread. No, you won't be paying.

So I’m not really sure how to complain to the landowner if I was unloading on red lines. I have read the newbies advise but it doesn’t say what to say when complaining. What do I write to complain please. Sorry I’m running on zero sleep with 2 under 3. 

Why not just copy what this person did:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81072017/#Comment_81072017

Orchid2127

Coupon-mad said:

Orchid2127 said:

The_Slithy_Tove said:

Just follow the standard advice that is in the NEWBIES thread. No, you won't be paying.

So I’m not really sure how to complain to the landowner if I was unloading on red lines. I have read the newbies advise but it doesn’t say what to say when complaining. What do I write to complain please. Sorry I’m running on zero sleep with 2 under 3. 

Why not just copy what this person did:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81072017/#Comment_81072017

Hi, thanks for your help. I’m not a taxi driver so don’t know if the landowner would cancel 

Coupon-mad

But that's irrelevant.  Stop looking for exact matches.  The point is, I'm showing you who to contact and that they will cancel PCNs.

That's all you need to know.

As for what to put in the complaint, surely you saw the first hyperlink in the NEWBIES thread 'Successful Complaints About PPCs'?

Literally years worth of complaints including lots of examples of what shoppers successfully put to retail park landowners. Hundreds of posts.

Read it from the END page, flicking back through and skim-reading for one where the person has posted their complaint.

foden11

If it is any help the management agent is Morgan Williams or was.
This is a good honey trap for UKPC?
 

Coupon-mad

But the linked thread shows who cancelled.