IMPORTANT: Please make sure your posts do not contain any personally identifiable information (both your own and that of others). When uploading images, please take care that you have redacted all personal information including number plates, reference numbers and QR codes (which may reveal vehicle information when scanned).
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Popla Appeal Advice within Grace period.

Options
13»

Comments

  • Thanks I would change but I am not allowed. 
  • chuck321
    chuck321 Posts: 15 Forumite
    10 Posts
    FYI The POPLA appeal was successful. On these grounds if anyone is interested. 

    Parking operators must follow certain rules including warning the registered keeper that they will be liable for the charge if the parking operator is not provided with the name and address of the driver. I can see but the PCN does not have the correct POFA wording and doesn’t mention POFA or has the correct POFA information on to transfer the liability to the keeper if the name of the driver is not located as in this case. Furthermore, the PCN was issued outside the 14 day timescale. The appellant has appealed to the operator and POPLA and there has been no driver liability divulged. As the appellant is not liable for this PCN, I must allow this appeal. As the operator have not been able to transfer liability to the keeper I have to allow the appeal as they have not met the conditions of POFA.”


  • 1505grandad
    1505grandad Posts: 3,806 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    chuck321 said:
    FYI The POPLA appeal was successful. On these grounds if anyone is interested. 

    “Parking operators must follow certain rules including warning the registered keeper that they will be liable for the charge if the parking operator is not provided with the name and address of the driver. I can see but the PCN does not have the correct POFA wording and doesn’t mention POFA or has the correct POFA information on to transfer the liability to the keeper if the name of the driver is not located as in this case. Furthermore, the PCN was issued outside the 14 day timescale. The appellant has appealed to the operator and POPLA and there has been no driver liability divulged. As the appellant is not liable for this PCN, I must allow this appeal. As the operator have not been able to transfer liability to the keeper I have to allow the appeal as they have not met the conditions of POFA.”


    Well done but:-

    That's strange  -  according to your opening post you only appealed using wrong grace/consideration periods as stated by subsequent posters. So POPLA decided on grounds not in the appeal?
  • chuck321
    chuck321 Posts: 15 Forumite
    10 Posts
    edited 5 February at 1:38AM
    Yes that is correct. The appeal was successful on grounds I did not explicitly make in my appeal. It also said that they didn’t need to consider the timings because the transfer of liability problems and the 14 days notice issue were enough reasons to reject the PCN, 
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,371 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited 5 February at 1:44AM
    Quite right - a correct POPLA decision.

    Congrats!
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • chuck321
    chuck321 Posts: 15 Forumite
    10 Posts
    So lesson is - never say you were the driver. 
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,371 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited 5 February at 1:59AM
    Indeed.

    We've known this basic rule for a decade and it's what the NEWBIES thread says!

     :D 
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.1K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.2K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.7K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.1K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 599.2K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177K Life & Family
  • 257.5K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.