Turning right at an awkward Junction and another car hit me from the right hand lane.

eskbanker

Ectophile said:

eskbanker said:

KP018336 said:

From my perspective, my car was already in front, and i would of expected the car that was behind me in the right lane to have kept distance and proceed with caution rather than speeding up and attempting to overtake.

I don't think it's realistic to portray this as an overtaking manoeuvre - if there are two lanes entering the junction, and a corresponding two exiting it, then there's nothing obliging someone in the outer lane to 'hang back' and treat the inner one as if they have some sort of priority, i.e. both cars are equally entitled to turn at the same time and should obviously do so with due regard to any traffic in the other lane.

But I would expect the person in the outer lane to take the turn wide.  Not cut the corner and ram into the person on the inner lane.

Agreed - I was a bit slack with terminology, by inner and outer lanes I meant the left and right hand ones respectively, but in the specific context of a right turn I can see that this is ambiguous!  But yes, I think we all agree that the two lanes should be regarded as independent of each other, contrary to OP's apparent expectation that the other car should have slowed down to avoid taking the turn at the same time.

mikrt

Looking at OPs diagram, I don't see where he expected the right side car to go..

Left side car should have swung far wider. It looks as though he's cut him up. 

LightFlare

Petriix said:

KP018336 said:

I was recently hit by another car that drove into the back of my rear right door when turning right.

There are two lanes that go straight, and both of them have to turn right. At the time i was in the far left lane and started to turn right when I thought it was appropriate to do so. The car on my right hand side started to speed up behind me, and whilst I was already turning right, they colided with me. The left hand corner of their front bumper had colided with the right rear door towards the rear wheel arch.

Unfortunatley there are no road markings that  guide the cars as they turn right, so the driver has to use their judgement when turning right. From my perspective, my car was already in front, and i would of expected the car that was behind me in the right lane to have kept distance and proceed with caution rather than speeding up and attempting to overtake.

Any advice on the matter would be helpful. 

If you followed the path of the top red line in the bottom photo then you're 100% at fault. There's plenty of room for two vehicles to make the turn at the same time and the onus would naturally be on the vehicle in the left hand lane to create sufficient space. Unless the other car was attempting to change into the left lane which you already occupied, it would appear that you encroached on their lane.

Without clear evidence it's likely to be a 50/50 split on the insurance but it depends on whether there's dash cam footage or witnesses. 

Agree - the car on the outside should have gone straight on untill at least clearing the white line in the middle of the lane and only then turned right

Ayr_Rage

Unless there is video evidence then it'll be a 50/50.