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Advice desperately needed on wage reporting and UC

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I work for a local authority, who have changed their HR system this month and it’s causing me a nightmare with UC.

I am monthly paid, and always get paid on the third last working day of the month, and it’s never been a problem. My wages have always been reported to HMRC on the date of payment, and fallen within my UC assessment period. 

This month I was paid on 29/10 as expected, but my HMRC account said I was paid 31/10, which is outside my UC assessment period. My pay slip used to have the actual date of payment on it, but  this month states ‘end of pay period 31/10’. 

UC statement now shows no deductions for this month, and 2 pays will fall into my next UC period. 

HR said they reported to HMRC the correct pay date- 29/10. 
HMRC shows the 31/10
and UC are saying they have to go by HMRC. I’ve offered my bank statement but they’re not interested. 

As a result I stand to be £800 down next month when I’m barely scraping by as it is. Please can someone give me some advice as to how to fix this. Surely pay days have to be reported properly to HMRC?

Thanks if you got this far 

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  • huckster
    huckster Posts: 5,277 Forumite
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    edited 2 November 2024 at 11:57AM
    Send a journal message about the pay issue. For monthly paid employees UC can enable one months pay to be considered within each assessment period.  As part of this process you will have to report the October 29th pay using a to-do action UC will create. Once to-do completed this will create an overpayment as UC will have overpaid you due to missing earnings.

    HMRC RTI reporting rules require employers to report employee earnings no more than 1 day after wages paid.
    The comments I post are personal opinion. Always refer to official information sources before relying on internet forums. If you have a problem with any organisation, enter into their official complaints process at the earliest opportunity, as sometimes complaints have to be started within a certain time frame.
  • huckster said:
    Send a journal message about the pay issue. For monthly paid employees UC can enable one months pay to be considered within each assessment period.  As part of this process you will have to report the October 29th pay using a to-do action UC will create. Once to-do completed this will create an overpayment as UC will have overpaid you due to missing earnings.

    HMRC RTI reporting rules require employers to report employee earnings no more than 1 day after wages paid.
    Is there a penalty for late reporting, as this will have happened to thousands of employees, and possibly if I can raise this a potential issue, my HR department will take me more seriously. 
  • kaMelo
    kaMelo Posts: 2,854 Forumite
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    huckster said:
    Send a journal message about the pay issue. For monthly paid employees UC can enable one months pay to be considered within each assessment period.  As part of this process you will have to report the October 29th pay using a to-do action UC will create. Once to-do completed this will create an overpayment as UC will have overpaid you due to missing earnings.

    HMRC RTI reporting rules require employers to report employee earnings no more than 1 day after wages paid.
    Is there a penalty for late reporting, as this will have happened to thousands of employees, and possibly if I can raise this a potential issue, my HR department will take me more seriously. 
    Yes, employers can be penalised by HMRC for late reporting and the rules require RTI reporting to be done on or before pay date.
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