Land Registry AP1 form help

Keep_pedalling

I still think this is a big mistake they are making. What happens if one of them decides he or she wants to cash out to get a better deposit for their own house? Do all of you understand what is involved in being a landlord, what your responsibilities are? This is certainly not the easiest option by a long way and you should not let your heart rule your head regarding hanging on to the family home.

Land_Registry

Stormy_Sky said:

Hi, I apologise in advance if my questions have already been asked and answered. 

I think it’s more to the fact I just want to make sure I have everything correct before I send everything.

If anyone can help I’d really appreciate it. 

My Mother has recently passed away and she's left her property to myself and my children.
We've now got to the stage of filling out forms AS1, AP1 & ID1.

The form we've had the issues with is the AP1, please find below the sections we need help with - 

AP1 –

• Section 4 – Application, priority and fees
  We put the following information - 

Applications in priority - Assent (AS1) 
Price paid/Value - (The value of the property)
Fees paid - £100 (As the value is between £200,001 and £500,000

Is this correct? Do we need to add anything else in this section?

• Section 5 - Documents lodged with this form
  While doing all of this paper work we've found that my late Father is still listed on the deeds so obviously we'd have to send documents regarding his death. 
  We put the following information - 

Death Certificate - (Name of Father) 
Death Certificate - (Name of Mother) 
Probate - (Name of Mother) 

Is this correct? Do i need to send both a death certificate and probate for my Mother?
Is there any other documents i need to list/send?

• Section 14 - Where the application is sent to Land Registry by someone who is not a conveyancer
  We have put the following information - 
  

My name 
(Transferor)

My name 
(Transferee)

Daughters name 
(Transferee)

Sons name 
(Transferee)

Is this correct?

AP1 - Panel 4 - correct as the fee is payable under Scale 2 on the current market value
Panel 5 - we only need Probate for your Mother as it is both proof of her death and the executor's (personal rep) legal authority to deal with the property and transfer it
Panel 14 - correct 

With regards the further discussion as to whether you should do as planned that's not something we can assist with. We deal with the outcome of such decisions so only see the final paperwork and transfer used to update the register.
Having read and dealt with many similar examples there are always options to consider here as to what's 'best' in such circumstances particularly with regards what happens next re the three of you and your own homes, families etc. 
Always worth having that discussion to see what works 'best' for All bearing in mind your late Mother's wishes

Savvy_Sue

Keep_pedalling said:

I still think this is a big mistake they are making. What happens if one of them decides he or she wants to cash out to get a better deposit for their own house? Do all of you understand what is involved in being a landlord, what your responsibilities are? This is certainly not the easiest option by a long way and you should not let your heart rule your head regarding hanging on to the family home.

Not only that, but part-owning a property will also affect any claim for means-tested benefits, and will have to be declared in the event of divorce. The OP may think neither of those is ever going to happen, but ... 

Also remember that it won't be 'the family home' if you're renting it out. It will be someone else's family home. It will look and feel very different. 

Some more very practical questions: is it in a desirable, easy to rent location? Is it a desirable, easy to rent property?

Being a landlord is not to be undertaken lightly. If you get a very good tenant, it can be great. If you don't, it's an absolute nightmare.  

Stormy_Sky

Land_Registry said:

Stormy_Sky said:

Hi, I apologise in advance if my questions have already been asked and answered. 

I think it’s more to the fact I just want to make sure I have everything correct before I send everything.

If anyone can help I’d really appreciate it. 

My Mother has recently passed away and she's left her property to myself and my children.
We've now got to the stage of filling out forms AS1, AP1 & ID1.

The form we've had the issues with is the AP1, please find below the sections we need help with - 

AP1 –

• Section 4 – Application, priority and fees
  We put the following information - 

Applications in priority - Assent (AS1) 
Price paid/Value - (The value of the property)
Fees paid - £100 (As the value is between £200,001 and £500,000

Is this correct? Do we need to add anything else in this section?

• Section 5 - Documents lodged with this form
  While doing all of this paper work we've found that my late Father is still listed on the deeds so obviously we'd have to send documents regarding his death. 
  We put the following information - 

Death Certificate - (Name of Father) 
Death Certificate - (Name of Mother) 
Probate - (Name of Mother) 

Is this correct? Do i need to send both a death certificate and probate for my Mother?
Is there any other documents i need to list/send?

• Section 14 - Where the application is sent to Land Registry by someone who is not a conveyancer
  We have put the following information - 
  

My name 
(Transferor)

My name 
(Transferee)

Daughters name 
(Transferee)

Sons name 
(Transferee)

Is this correct?

AP1 - Panel 4 - correct as the fee is payable under Scale 2 on the current market value
Panel 5 - we only need Probate for your Mother as it is both proof of her death and the executor's (personal rep) legal authority to deal with the property and transfer it
Panel 14 - correct 

With regards the further discussion as to whether you should do as planned that's not something we can assist with. We deal with the outcome of such decisions so only see the final paperwork and transfer used to update the register.
Having read and dealt with many similar examples there are always options to consider here as to what's 'best' in such circumstances particularly with regards what happens next re the three of you and your own homes, families etc. 
Always worth having that discussion to see what works 'best' for All bearing in mind your late Mother's wishes

Thank you @Land_Registry for answering my questions and helping me finish the AP1 form. 
Like i've said in one of the replies within this post, we've had many discussions and my children are at the age to make their own decisions, they know there will be implications further down the line, but they wish to honour their Grandmother's wishes.

We've almost now finished the last forms which is the ID1
Is it true that i read because my name is on the Probate for my Mother, i wont have to do the ID1?  

Also on the ID1 for my children 

• Section 11 - Type of application (e.g. transfer, mortgage, discharge etc)
  We're guessing we put Assent or do we put Transfer?

Thank you again for your help. 

Land_Registry

Stormy_Sky said:

Land_Registry said:

Stormy_Sky said:

Hi, I apologise in advance if my questions have already been asked and answered. 

I think it’s more to the fact I just want to make sure I have everything correct before I send everything.

If anyone can help I’d really appreciate it. 

My Mother has recently passed away and she's left her property to myself and my children.
We've now got to the stage of filling out forms AS1, AP1 & ID1.

The form we've had the issues with is the AP1, please find below the sections we need help with - 

AP1 –

• Section 4 – Application, priority and fees
  We put the following information - 

Applications in priority - Assent (AS1) 
Price paid/Value - (The value of the property)
Fees paid - £100 (As the value is between £200,001 and £500,000

Is this correct? Do we need to add anything else in this section?

• Section 5 - Documents lodged with this form
  While doing all of this paper work we've found that my late Father is still listed on the deeds so obviously we'd have to send documents regarding his death. 
  We put the following information - 

Death Certificate - (Name of Father) 
Death Certificate - (Name of Mother) 
Probate - (Name of Mother) 

Is this correct? Do i need to send both a death certificate and probate for my Mother?
Is there any other documents i need to list/send?

• Section 14 - Where the application is sent to Land Registry by someone who is not a conveyancer
  We have put the following information - 
  

My name 
(Transferor)

My name 
(Transferee)

Daughters name 
(Transferee)

Sons name 
(Transferee)

Is this correct?

AP1 - Panel 4 - correct as the fee is payable under Scale 2 on the current market value
Panel 5 - we only need Probate for your Mother as it is both proof of her death and the executor's (personal rep) legal authority to deal with the property and transfer it
Panel 14 - correct 

With regards the further discussion as to whether you should do as planned that's not something we can assist with. We deal with the outcome of such decisions so only see the final paperwork and transfer used to update the register.
Having read and dealt with many similar examples there are always options to consider here as to what's 'best' in such circumstances particularly with regards what happens next re the three of you and your own homes, families etc. 
Always worth having that discussion to see what works 'best' for All bearing in mind your late Mother's wishes

Thank you @Land_Registry for answering my questions and helping me finish the AP1 form. 
Like i've said in one of the replies within this post, we've had many discussions and my children are at the age to make their own decisions, they know there will be implications further down the line, but they wish to honour their Grandmother's wishes.

We've almost now finished the last forms which is the ID1
Is it true that i read because my name is on the Probate for my Mother, i wont have to do the ID1?  

Also on the ID1 for my children 

• Section 11 - Type of application (e.g. transfer, mortgage, discharge etc)
  We're guessing we put Assent or do we put Transfer?

Thank you again for your help. 

An Assent is a Transfer but as you are doing a specific Assent then you should put that
You all, the three of you, need to have your identities verified. There was a time (pre September) when executors named in the probate did not need to but that has been changed and that is also a requirement

Stormy_Sky

Land_Registry said:

Stormy_Sky said:

Land_Registry said:

Stormy_Sky said:

Hi, I apologise in advance if my questions have already been asked and answered. 

I think it’s more to the fact I just want to make sure I have everything correct before I send everything.

If anyone can help I’d really appreciate it. 

My Mother has recently passed away and she's left her property to myself and my children.
We've now got to the stage of filling out forms AS1, AP1 & ID1.

The form we've had the issues with is the AP1, please find below the sections we need help with - 

AP1 –

• Section 4 – Application, priority and fees
  We put the following information - 

Applications in priority - Assent (AS1) 
Price paid/Value - (The value of the property)
Fees paid - £100 (As the value is between £200,001 and £500,000

Is this correct? Do we need to add anything else in this section?

• Section 5 - Documents lodged with this form
  While doing all of this paper work we've found that my late Father is still listed on the deeds so obviously we'd have to send documents regarding his death. 
  We put the following information - 

Death Certificate - (Name of Father) 
Death Certificate - (Name of Mother) 
Probate - (Name of Mother) 

Is this correct? Do i need to send both a death certificate and probate for my Mother?
Is there any other documents i need to list/send?

• Section 14 - Where the application is sent to Land Registry by someone who is not a conveyancer
  We have put the following information - 
  

My name 
(Transferor)

My name 
(Transferee)

Daughters name 
(Transferee)

Sons name 
(Transferee)

Is this correct?

AP1 - Panel 4 - correct as the fee is payable under Scale 2 on the current market value
Panel 5 - we only need Probate for your Mother as it is both proof of her death and the executor's (personal rep) legal authority to deal with the property and transfer it
Panel 14 - correct 

With regards the further discussion as to whether you should do as planned that's not something we can assist with. We deal with the outcome of such decisions so only see the final paperwork and transfer used to update the register.
Having read and dealt with many similar examples there are always options to consider here as to what's 'best' in such circumstances particularly with regards what happens next re the three of you and your own homes, families etc. 
Always worth having that discussion to see what works 'best' for All bearing in mind your late Mother's wishes

Thank you @Land_Registry for answering my questions and helping me finish the AP1 form. 
Like i've said in one of the replies within this post, we've had many discussions and my children are at the age to make their own decisions, they know there will be implications further down the line, but they wish to honour their Grandmother's wishes.

We've almost now finished the last forms which is the ID1
Is it true that i read because my name is on the Probate for my Mother, i wont have to do the ID1?  

Also on the ID1 for my children 

• Section 11 - Type of application (e.g. transfer, mortgage, discharge etc)
  We're guessing we put Assent or do we put Transfer?

Thank you again for your help. 

An Assent is a Transfer but as you are doing a specific Assent then you should put that
You all, the three of you, need to have your identities verified. There was a time (pre September) when executors named in the probate did not need to but that has been changed and that is also a requirement

That's great thank you. It's a good thing i checked with you before sending all the forms off.
Once again, thank you so much for all the help

Willeri

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