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Solicitor and BIL are executors.
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Metallicace
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My mother in law left house and funds to be split into the 3 adult Christmas (one is my wife), minus a sum for each grandchild (4 of them).
The executors are the eldest son and the solicitor that's dealing with the will.
So firstly and maybe most importantly, can my wife ask the solicitor any questions about the will, in complete privacy? Her brother is a bit of a bully and she doesn't want to upset him.
Basically our eldest lived with my mother in law, looked after her etc etc. now she did borrow 10k a few years ago and had been paying it back, but still 4k to pay. Nothing in writing etc.
My BIL wants to take that 4k that she owes out of her inheritance. Is this legal!?
This is why we'd like to ask a few questions to solicitor.
Another thing is we found a letter from MIL that said the eldest brother was loaned 24k around 15 years ago and 2/3 was to be paid back when father in law died 4 years ago.
Can we question was this ever paid back!?
Sorry for the long story.
The executors are the eldest son and the solicitor that's dealing with the will.
So firstly and maybe most importantly, can my wife ask the solicitor any questions about the will, in complete privacy? Her brother is a bit of a bully and she doesn't want to upset him.
Basically our eldest lived with my mother in law, looked after her etc etc. now she did borrow 10k a few years ago and had been paying it back, but still 4k to pay. Nothing in writing etc.
My BIL wants to take that 4k that she owes out of her inheritance. Is this legal!?
This is why we'd like to ask a few questions to solicitor.
Another thing is we found a letter from MIL that said the eldest brother was loaned 24k around 15 years ago and 2/3 was to be paid back when father in law died 4 years ago.
Can we question was this ever paid back!?
Sorry for the long story.
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*Christmas, it's children, sorry0
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Solicitors have a duty of confidentiality so there should be no issue asking questions such as this.0
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Do you mean your mother-in-law died last Christmas?
You've confirmed that your eldest owed £4k to her grandmother when she died. She now owes that money to her grandmother's estate. The executors not only can but should recover all debts owed to the estate, just as they have an obligation to pay all debts which the estate owes. That is part of their duties.
Your wife seems to be a residual beneficiary (she gets a share of what is left once all other payments have been made). At that point she would be entitled to see the accounts of how the estate has been administered. In law she's not really entitled to see anything until then and I would be surprised if the solicitor administering the estate would discuss the will with her.
You believe a loan should have been paid back to your mother-in-law about 4 years ago, some years before she died. Can you ask about it?
You can ask her eldest son or other family members about it of course and about the letter you 'found', but you have absolutely no entitlement to do so. Expect to be told to mind your own business.
The solicitor will probably know nothing about that loan, but even if he does he will absolutely not discuss it with you.
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In these pages we often say that for most wills appointing a solicitor as executor is an unnecessary expense. However in this case I think it might have been a wise move by your mother-in-law. The solicitor will make sure that the estate is managed exactly according to the will and to the law.1 -
Metallicace said:
My BIL wants to take that 4k that she owes out of her inheritance. Is this legal!?
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Alderbank said:Do you mean your mother-in-law died last Christmas?
You've confirmed that your eldest owed £4k to her grandmother when she died. She now owes that money to her grandmother's estate. The executors not only can but should recover all debts owed to the estate, just as they have an obligation to pay all debts which the estate owes. That is part of their duties.
Your wife seems to be a residual beneficiary (she gets a share of what is left once all other payments have been made). At that point she would be entitled to see the accounts of how the estate has been administered. In law she's not really entitled to see anything until then and I would be surprised if the solicitor administering the estate would discuss the will with her.
You believe a loan should have been paid back to your mother-in-law about 4 years ago, some years before she died. Can you ask about it?
You can ask her eldest son or other family members about it of course and about the letter you 'found', but you have absolutely no entitlement to do so. Expect to be told to mind your own business.
The solicitor will probably know nothing about that loan, but even if he does he will absolutely not discuss it with you.0 -
Alderbank said:Your wife seems to be a residual beneficiary (she gets a share of what is left once all other payments have been made). At that point she would be entitled to see the accounts of how the estate has been administered. In law she's not really entitled to see anything until then and I would be surprised if the solicitor administering the estate would discuss the will with her.
Search probate records for documents and wills (England and Wales) - GOV.UK0 -
Alderbank said:Do you mean your mother-in-law died last Christmas?
You've confirmed that your eldest owed £4k to her grandmother when she died. She now owes that money to her grandmother's estate. The executors not only can but should recover all debts owed to the estate, just as they have an obligation to pay all debts which the estate owes. That is part of their duties.
Your wife seems to be a residual beneficiary (she gets a share of what is left once all other payments have been made). At that point she would be entitled to see the accounts of how the estate has been administered. In law she's not really entitled to see anything until then and I would be surprised if the solicitor administering the estate would discuss the will with her.
You believe a loan should have been paid back to your mother-in-law about 4 years ago, some years before she died. Can you ask about it?
You can ask her eldest son or other family members about it of course and about the letter you 'found', but you have absolutely no entitlement to do so. Expect to be told to mind your own business.
The solicitor will probably know nothing about that loan, but even if he does he will absolutely not discuss it with you.
ETA
In these pages we often say that for most wills appointing a solicitor as executor is an unnecessary expense. However in this case I think it might have been a wise move by your mother-in-law. The solicitor will make sure that the estate is managed exactly according to the will and to the law.
I would be less than happy to have to await the circulation of the final published estate distribution accounts, to discover how the eldest brother navigated his potential conflict of interest as executor/ residual legatee as regards the loan he had received in the past.
Incidentally, I say this as someone in a not too dissimilar position as the eldest brother. I hold as bare trustee a sum of money on my mother's behalf, but to ensure this arrangement did not get lost in the mist of time, I executed and circulated to my siblings a declaration of Bare Trust documenting this arrangement, since I will ultimately ( if I don't predecease her ) be the executor of my mother's estate.
Like Ceasar's wife, an Executor 's actions should be above suspicion, and the exsistence of a solicitor as co executor is not necessarily a gurantee of this ( depends on the competency of solicitor concerned, which frankly cannot be assumed ) .
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poseidon1 said:Alderbank said:
I would be less than happy to have to await the circulation of the final published estate distribution accounts, to discover how the eldest brother navigated his potential conflict of interest as executor/ residual legatee as regards the loan he had received in the past.0
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