Foreign suppliers - is there any way to get a refund?

noitsnotme

JAS137 said:

noitsnotme said:

JAS137 said:

I don't think it should be legal though.  I didn't realise that any company can have one.  

Contact details was only an email address.

What is the "who is" website checker?

Any company, sole trader or private individual can have pretty much any domain extension they like (bar some such as .gov for example).  I could set up a website with a domain relating to pretty much any country in the world even though I'm in the UK.  There is no chance that it will be made illegal any time soon.

As above, do your due diligence.  And if you find that too tricky then stick to well known retailers.

Unfortunately searching for cheap bargains is going to take you in to the world of overseas sellers of cheap tat.

I wasn't shopping for "cheap" stuff I just liked the design/style but unfortunately it didn't fit me well. 

I bet it was cheaper than the equivalent you could buy from most UK based retailers.  The chance of a bargain is usually what causes people to let their guard down.

Vectis

Realistically, you’re not going to get your money back from a store which only trades with an email address.

How about selling them on eBay to recoup some of your money?

born_again

JAS137 said:

noitsnotme said:

JAS137 said:

I don't think it should be legal though.  I didn't realise that any company can have one.  

Contact details was only an email address.

What is the "who is" website checker?

Any company, sole trader or private individual can have pretty much any domain extension they like (bar some such as .gov for example).  I could set up a website with a domain relating to pretty much any country in the world even though I'm in the UK.  There is no chance that it will be made illegal any time soon.

As above, do your due diligence.  And if you find that too tricky then stick to well known retailers.

Unfortunately searching for cheap bargains is going to take you in to the world of overseas sellers of cheap tat.

I wasn't shopping for "cheap" stuff I just liked the design/style but unfortunately it didn't fit me well. 

They are exactly their targets. Often as seen on social media as insert retailer name + "OutletStore"
What website was it. 

powerful_Rogue

JAS137 said:

noitsnotme said:

JAS137 said:

I don't think it should be legal though.  I didn't realise that any company can have one.  

Contact details was only an email address.

What is the "who is" website checker?

Any company, sole trader or private individual can have pretty much any domain extension they like (bar some such as .gov for example).  I could set up a website with a domain relating to pretty much any country in the world even though I'm in the UK.  There is no chance that it will be made illegal any time soon.

As above, do your due diligence.  And if you find that too tricky then stick to well known retailers.

Unfortunately searching for cheap bargains is going to take you in to the world of overseas sellers of cheap tat.

I wasn't shopping for "cheap" stuff I just liked the design/style but unfortunately it didn't fit me well. 

And the website is?

Ergates

JAS137 said:

Firstly, why are foreign companies allowed to have a ".co UK" website.

The agency that controls web domains is not the UK government - there is no law that could determine who is (and who isn't) allowed to have which domains, nor is there any government agency that could enforce such a law.

JAS137 said:

What is the "who is" website checker?

WHOIS Search, Domain Name, Website, and IP Tools - Who.is

DullGreyGuy

Ergates said:

JAS137 said:

Firstly, why are foreign companies allowed to have a ".co UK" website.

The agency that controls web domains is not the UK government - there is no law that could determine who is (and who isn't) allowed to have which domains, nor is there any government agency that could enforce such a law.

But Nominet themselves can define rules and apply them... like they do with .ltd.uk/.plc.uk, .net.uk and .sch.uk which are restricted to companies with the identical name, ISP and schools respectively.

They also dont control some second levels like .mod.uk and .mil.uk both of which are managed by the Ministry of Defence  so government agencies can control them if they want. 

Before Nominet .UK was controlled by a naming committee and whilst it was under its control the rule was domains had to match a company's name and a company could only own one meaning that B&Q couldn't operate under DIY.co.uk as they do these days. 

Ergates

DullGreyGuy said:

Ergates said:

JAS137 said:

Firstly, why are foreign companies allowed to have a ".co UK" website.

The agency that controls web domains is not the UK government - there is no law that could determine who is (and who isn't) allowed to have which domains, nor is there any government agency that could enforce such a law.

But Nominet themselves can define rules and apply them... like they do with .ltd.uk/.plc.uk, .net.uk and .sch.uk which are restricted to companies with the identical name, ISP and schools respectively.

They also dont control some second levels like .mod.uk and .mil.uk both of which are managed by the Ministry of Defence  so government agencies can control them if they want. 

Before Nominet .UK was controlled by a naming committee and whilst it was under its control the rule was domains had to match a company's name and a company could only own one meaning that B&Q couldn't operate under DIY.co.uk as they do these days. 

Those are Nominet's own internal rules though, they're not laws and they're not legally enforceable.

Caz3121

what do the website terms and conditions show as which law they operate under?
what does the website show re returns?

Okell

Ergates said:

DullGreyGuy said:

Ergates said:

JAS137 said:

Firstly, why are foreign companies allowed to have a ".co UK" website.

The agency that controls web domains is not the UK government - there is no law that could determine who is (and who isn't) allowed to have which domains, nor is there any government agency that could enforce such a law.

But Nominet themselves can define rules and apply them... like they do with .ltd.uk/.plc.uk, .net.uk and .sch.uk which are restricted to companies with the identical name, ISP and schools respectively.

They also dont control some second levels like .mod.uk and .mil.uk both of which are managed by the Ministry of Defence  so government agencies can control them if they want. 

Before Nominet .UK was controlled by a naming committee and whilst it was under its control the rule was domains had to match a company's name and a company could only own one meaning that B&Q couldn't operate under DIY.co.uk as they do these days. 

Those are Nominet's own internal rules though, they're not laws and they're not legally enforceable.

I'm certainly no expert in this area - so may be totally wrong - but have you perhaps got that back to front?

The rules outlined by DGG may well be Nominet's own internal rules, but that doesn't mean they aren't legally enforceable, does it?

Surely the only way they wouldn't be legally enforceable would be if they were contrary to some other law or legal doctrine?

Aren't the internal rules of a club or society legally enforceable unless those rules themselves are unlawful in some way.  (Think of the Bosman ruling in football or of any rule that goes contrary to anti-discrimination legislation).

As I understand what DGG is saying is that Nominet is the body responsible for managing the .uk domain name, and if you want to register a .uk name you have to agree to Nominet's rules. 

So unless Nominet's rules are unlawful in themselves, wouldn't they be legally enforceable against anyone wanting to register a .uk domain?

(I'm not talking about the practicalities of legally enforcing the rules as I don't know anything about the internet or how it works...)

penners324

Why not get the larger size as offered?