PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.

Gifted equity and paying off sibling

Hello. Thanks for the add!

Just for info, we are in Scotland. 

Hubby and I are considering buying my Mum’s house and all living together. 

Mum is quite clear that she wants my sister and I to each have half the value of the house when she passes. 

My Dad passed away in Feb 24 and Mum can no longer manage the house.  We propose moving in and carrying out any repairs / modernisation. 

To simplify my query:

* We have a property to sell, which will give us (hopefully) about £75k profit.

*  Mum’s house is valued at £175k

* We are looking to take a mortgage for about £40k, buy Mum’s house for £87.5k off my

* Mum will pay my sister her £87.5k and she is gifting me my share of the equity (£87.5k) to go as a deposit for the mortgage. 

So my questions are:

- With the gifted equity does Mum still have any ownership rights to the house or is this just between us and the lenders? 

  If Mum does have ownership rights can she put a stop to us selling down the line?

- Are we legally required to give my Mum life rent status? We don’t intend kicking her out but just wondered where we stand. 

- Are there likely to be any tax implications for any of us?

We are getting conflicting info on this and thought I would try on here 😀

Thanks,


Dragonladybute 

Comments

  • user1977
    user1977 Posts: 17,396 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Seventh Anniversary Photogenic Name Dropper
    edited 22 October 2024 at 6:13PM
    The mortgage lender is likely to have difficulty with a non-borrowing parent living in the property, especially if they have provided a "gifted" deposit (which are usually meant to have no strings attached). Consider the potential problems if they want to repossess...doesn't look good to be kicking out the elderly (who may claim they were diddled by their kids...)
  • user1977 said:
    The mortgage lender is likely to have difficulty with a non-borrowing parent living in the property, especially if they have provided a "gifted" deposit (which are usually meant to have no strings attached). Consider the potential problems if they want to repossess...doesn't look good to be kicking out the elderly (who may claim they were diddled by their kids...)
    Our current mortgage lender is happy to port our mortgage over and is aware of all the facts. 
  • Brie
    Brie Posts: 14,233 Ambassador
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    Solicitors will need to get your mom to write a letter to the affect of "I have gifted dragon £87500 to buy me out of my house and forthwith will no longer have any claim to ownership of the house".   

    This will likely make your bank happy to give you your mortgage.  The bank won't really care whether mom is living there or not as it's then a mortgage between you and them.  (mom is essentially a house guest....)   And so on this basis there is nothing to stop you selling the house in 5 years and putting mom out on the street. 

    On the other hand if mom reaches a point where she needs round the clock care and hasn't the savings to pay for this the local authority will start poking about and wondering about mom giving you and sis all of her money.  This is considered deprivation of assets.  So unless mom has enough either coming in from pensions or has other savings the LA will look to you both to foot the bill for mom's care.  To the point where sis will need to pay them her portion and you will either need to sell the house or accept a lien on it so the LA gets their split when you eventually sell.

    At least that's how it works down in Dorset.  When MiL went into care there was a lot that the LA poked at in our situation but some of it was overlooked due to the fact I was already over 60.  And MiL had a small amount of savings which staying in a care home started to burn through.  She was nearing the "LA must pay point" when she died so we never did get to the nasty bit.  

    It's hard work - please make sure you factor that in to your game plan.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on Debt Free Wannabe and Old Style Money Saving boards.  If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.

    "Never retract, never explain, never apologise; get things done and let them howl.”  Nellie McClung
    ⭐️🏅😇
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 350.1K Banking & Borrowing
  • 252.8K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.1K Spending & Discounts
  • 243K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 597.4K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 176.5K Life & Family
  • 256K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.