Can you park a company car fully on the pavement outside your shop

forgotmyname

born_again said:

If there are double yellow lines on the road no. As they extend all the way to the boundary, not just on the road.

If there are bollards to stop parking. Then clearly there have been complaints before.

Rule 145. You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency.
So unless there is a dropped kerb...

Many years ago I worked for a company and we all parked on the road outside, then the council put double yellow lines all along the
road which was stupid because you can get 5 lanes of traffic it was that wide. We started parking further away.

One day the boss started parking right outside the shop, turned out he had been through the deeds and 6ft or 8ft was part of the
property.  He got several tickets and was fighting them when I left to work elsewhere. He claimed to own the land and they gave up
on that but I think the deeds said something about not blocking access which technically he wasn't because the pavement was
really wide.

Maybe the shop in the OP's case put the bollards in to mark their boundary?  Deeds may have a clause about not blocking access so they cannot
build a wall or fence?

Arunmor

The question is where does the "council" pavement start and the businesses property boundary end?  In our village the pavements on the main road are owned by the property bar 12-18". Which becomes entertaining when folk park on the pavement and even more so if the council put up a road sign within the property boundary.  Having said all that I don't think it's very common.

born_again

forgotmyname said:

born_again said:

If there are double yellow lines on the road no. As they extend all the way to the boundary, not just on the road.

If there are bollards to stop parking. Then clearly there have been complaints before.

Rule 145. You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency.
So unless there is a dropped kerb...

Many years ago I worked for a company and we all parked on the road outside, then the council put double yellow lines all along the
road which was stupid because you can get 5 lanes of traffic it was that wide. We started parking further away.

One day the boss started parking right outside the shop, turned out he had been through the deeds and 6ft or 8ft was part of the
property.  He got several tickets and was fighting them when I left to work elsewhere. He claimed to own the land and they gave up
on that but I think the deeds said something about not blocking access which technically he wasn't because the pavement was
really wide.

Maybe the shop in the OP's case put the bollards in to mark their boundary?  Deeds may have a clause about not blocking access so they cannot
build a wall or fence?

Which would be where the boundary would be.
The issue would be if there was no dropped kerb, then there is no access to that bit of their land for a car.

user1977

born_again said:

forgotmyname said:

born_again said:

If there are double yellow lines on the road no. As they extend all the way to the boundary, not just on the road.

If there are bollards to stop parking. Then clearly there have been complaints before.

Rule 145. You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency.
So unless there is a dropped kerb...

Many years ago I worked for a company and we all parked on the road outside, then the council put double yellow lines all along the
road which was stupid because you can get 5 lanes of traffic it was that wide. We started parking further away.

One day the boss started parking right outside the shop, turned out he had been through the deeds and 6ft or 8ft was part of the
property.  He got several tickets and was fighting them when I left to work elsewhere. He claimed to own the land and they gave up
on that but I think the deeds said something about not blocking access which technically he wasn't because the pavement was
really wide.

Maybe the shop in the OP's case put the bollards in to mark their boundary?  Deeds may have a clause about not blocking access so they cannot
build a wall or fence?

Which would be where the boundary would be.

Though it's pretty commonplace for ownership to extend into the public highway - in which case the ownership is irrelevant.

forgotmyname

born_again said:

Which would be where the boundary would be.
The issue would be if there was no dropped kerb, then there is no access to that bit of their land for a car.

Dropped kerb was 2 shops along with a gateway, no dropped kerb directly outside.  Not been that way for many years and
just checked google and they now have parking bays, double yellows removed, seems to have way more fast food shops than
anything else.

Wow 33 shops and 17 sell fast food.  I remember when they were all outraged because there was a single pizza shop and a
Chinese restaurant and a 2nd pizza shop wanted to open thay said two food shops was enough.