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Nightmare neighbours next door!

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  • ThisIsWeird
    ThisIsWeird Posts: 7,935 Forumite
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    edited 16 October 2024 at 4:20PM
    Jepersky said:

    The neighbours attached their washing line directly to the side of our house. When I raised this with the landlord, she insisted it was attached to the fence. After I sent her a photo clearly showing the line had been moved and fixed to our wall, her only response was, “Well, I don’t live there anymore.”I’ve also been dealing with her regarding a plumber’s fee. She claims to have an “independent” report saying nothing was wrong with the en-suite, which is pretty hard to believe considering there was a blocked drain. It would have been simple for them to move the washing line back to the fence where it originally was or at the very least ask for permission before attaching anything to our property.We’re not the kind of people who like confrontation, but dealing with our landlord has been beyond frustrating.

    You don't appear to have read the replies above. What the tenant does is not the responsibility of the LL (within reason). Time to stop 'dealing with our (sic) landlord'.
    The best way to tackle this is to imagine there is no LL, so anything 'bad' the next door neighbour does is the next door neighbour's 'fault'.
    If they are excessively noisy, then speak to them, and then contact your LA. If they block your sewer, then speak to them, and then contact your Water Board - and point them in the direction of the miscreant. If they screw summat to your wall, then you screw them.
    Do you have LegProt on your insurance? Cool! Then relax...

    Hang on - are you also renting, and from the same LL? If so, you may - just possibly - be able to apply a little pressure on them to try and keep their tenant under control, assuming they'd rather lose them than you. But, failing that, the above applies.

  • Thanks for the advice. Just to clarify, I own my property and am not renting. We’ve already spoken to the tenants several times, but despite our polite attempts, the situation hasn’t improved. When we inform the landlord about the ongoing noise issues after trying to address it with the tenants, she dismisses our concerns and accuses us of lying.

    We reached out to her only to make her aware of the problem, hoping to resolve it amicably, but she seems more interested in defending her tenants than finding a solution. We’ve had enough of dealing with blocked drains every two minutes, constant noise, and other disruptions. We weren’t confrontational, but her reaction has been overly aggressive
  • ThisIsWeird
    ThisIsWeird Posts: 7,935 Forumite
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    edited 16 October 2024 at 5:00PM
    Jepersky said:
    Thanks for the advice. Just to clarify, I own my property and am not renting. We’ve already spoken to the tenants several times, but despite our polite attempts, the situation hasn’t improved. When we inform the landlord about the ongoing noise issues after trying to address it with the tenants, she dismisses our concerns and accuses us of lying.
    We reached out to her only to make her aware of the problem, hoping to resolve it amicably, but she seems more interested in defending her tenants than finding a solution. We’ve had enough of dealing with blocked drains every two minutes, constant noise, and other disruptions. We weren’t confrontational, but her reaction has been overly aggressive
    I'd love for LLs to be more active in such situations - they seemingly hold the cards. But, in current reality, tenants have pretty much solid security (to be clear, I think that is - overall - a good thing).
    So, your LL's hands are tied. Once upon a time, given proper complaints, they could have said, "You wanna be homeless? No? Cool - now, behave...", but that has changed. (For largely good reason - ooh, 'political').
    For anything like inconsiderate or anti-social behaviour, you need to tackle this as if the folk next door also owned their property.
    As their neighbour, you have no more, or less, rights than they do. That they are a 'tenant' is moot. If they breach rools, you can tackle them.
    So, them attaching stuff to your house sounds like a 'breach' - so you can tackle them. Them knocking stuff off your mantelpiece due to noise levels sounds like a breach - so you can ditto.
    But the house owner is unlikely to care - and has no need to - unless they actually cause damage to their house.
    Think of your next door neighbour as a 'next door neighbour', and go from there.


  • discat11
    discat11 Posts: 537 Forumite
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    If you've already told them to remove the attachment to your property within 24 hours, then wait until that's expired and remove it yourself if it hasn't been done.
    Make sure you don't damage the line or the fixings. 
    As for the rest, you'll have to speak to your neighbour directly or take legal action.
  • discat11 said:
    If you've already told them to remove the attachment to your property within 24 hours, then wait until that's expired and remove it yourself if it hasn't been done.
    Make sure you don't damage the line or the fixings. 
    As for the rest, you'll have to speak to your neighbour directly or take legal action.
    Thanks, it is still attached to our property. I can’t remove it without accessing theirs back garden. I have advised landlord of this won’t be actioned I’ll implement daily fee for unauthorised use of my property. Also, I’ll ring my solicitor via house insurance for advice. What can I possibly charge them ? 

    Thanks 
  • ThisIsWeird
    ThisIsWeird Posts: 7,935 Forumite
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    Jepersky said:
    discat11 said:
    If you've already told them to remove the attachment to your property within 24 hours, then wait until that's expired and remove it yourself if it hasn't been done.
    Make sure you don't damage the line or the fixings. 
    As for the rest, you'll have to speak to your neighbour directly or take legal action.
    Thanks, it is still attached to our property. I can’t remove it without accessing theirs back garden. I have advised landlord of this won’t be actioned I’ll implement daily fee for unauthorised use of my property. Also, I’ll ring my solicitor via house insurance for advice. What can I possibly charge them ? 

    Thanks 

    Oh dear gawd...
  • jennifernil
    jennifernil Posts: 5,722 Forumite
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    If it is attached to your house wall, why do you need to access their garden to remove it?
  • If it is attached to your house wall, why do you need to access their garden to remove it?
    Because it’s terraced town house. Our gardens are divided by fence. I can’t remove it due to washing line being on other side of fence and I would be unable reach it. 
  • Jepersky said:
    discat11 said:
    If you've already told them to remove the attachment to your property within 24 hours, then wait until that's expired and remove it yourself if it hasn't been done.
    Make sure you don't damage the line or the fixings. 
    As for the rest, you'll have to speak to your neighbour directly or take legal action.
    Thanks, it is still attached to our property. I can’t remove it without accessing theirs back garden. I have advised landlord of this won’t be actioned I’ll implement daily fee for unauthorised use of my property. Also, I’ll ring my solicitor via house insurance for advice. What can I possibly charge them ? 

    Thanks 
    Why are you still contacting the landlord? The landlord doesn't care, it's not their problem - they can't do anything about this. Take up your issues with you neighbour, the one who lives in the house currently. 
  • ThisIsWeird
    ThisIsWeird Posts: 7,935 Forumite
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    Jepersky said:
    If it is attached to your house wall, why do you need to access their garden to remove it?
    Because it’s terraced town house. Our gardens are divided by fence. I can’t remove it due to washing line being on other side of fence and I would be unable reach it. 

    Any chance that your neighbour assumed this was part of 'their' house, as it was on their side of the boundary fence? I presume the brickwork is the same and continuous?
    I personally don't think this is worth it.
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