New Install - Heat Pump vs Combi

wrf12345

Government is mulling whether to extend the £7500 grant to air to air heat pumps (air-conditioner types) so may be worth seeing what happens but probably not going to work that well if you have a huge house, great for bungalows etc

matelodave

I'm guessing that by the time they've finished "mulling" they'll have knocked the £7.5k grant on the head.

QrizB

wrf12345 said:

Government is mulling whether to extend the £7500 grant to air to air heat pumps (air-conditioner types) so ...

It was reported on a different thread that A2A might only get a £1.5k grant. So don't get you hopes up.

debitcardmayhem

QrizB said:

wrf12345 said:

Government is mulling whether to extend the £7500 grant to air to air heat pumps (air-conditioner types) so ...

It was reported on a different thread that A2A might only get a £1.5k grant. So don't get you hopes up.

Where does the grant get funded from, do you know?

The_Green_Hornet

debitcardmayhem said:

QrizB said:

wrf12345 said:

Government is mulling whether to extend the £7500 grant to air to air heat pumps (air-conditioner types) so ...

It was reported on a different thread that A2A might only get a £1.5k grant. So don't get you hopes up.

Where does the grant get funded from, do you know?

It comes out of the DESNZ departmental budget so essentially the taxpayer and/or borrowing.

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DESNZ annual report and accounts 2024 to 2025 - GOV.UK

RavingMad

I don't see the point of a heat pump if your decision is based on finances. 

Do you want to be working out the optimum times to be running the system and having it run longer and lower? Lots of people posting on the heat pump section spending much of their time working out how to not cost so much because they haven't figured out they can't run it like their old gas boiler. And if you like a hot house in winter? Forget it. (I might be wrong about that)

What savings are heat pump owners getting? I wouldn't get excited over £150 a year 

Your money situation will most likely be different in 10/15 years time, and the landscape will be different 

I'm not here to poo poo on heat pumps and I'm sure there's loads here that will defend them ( I have a heat pump tumble dryer that takes 3 hours to dry my clothes and even then it doesn't dry as well as my old dryer - but it only costs 10p to run) but if I want 22⁰ what's that likely to cost factoring in efficiency?

wrf12345

Octopus have high temp heat pumps that can be used like gas boilers, lower efficiency - probably around 3 for the COP rather than 4 or 5 for "perfect" low temp, big radiatora or UF heating - but you can get ahead with a TOU tariff like cosy that has low priced slots, assuming half decent insulation and either proper windows or not a lot of them other than on the south side.

wrf12345

"It was reported on a different thread that A2A might only get a £1.5k grant. So don't get you hopes up."
That would cover a single A2A in London, perhaps two in the badlands, so halfway there where I live and about the same as a low end boiler install in overall pricing for four (assuming gas remains for heating water or instant-on and electric shower in smaller properties).

bob2302

wrf12345 said:

"It was reported on a different thread that A2A might only get a £1.5k grant. So don't get you hopes up."
That would cover a single A2A in London, perhaps two in the badlands, so halfway there where I live and about the same as a low end boiler install in overall pricing for four (assuming gas remains for heating water or instant-on and electric shower in smaller properties).

Are those figures realistic? Someone posted a link to one which was £2 - 2.5k without labour.

Personally I don't think I need more than one. Most of my central heating goes into my living room anyway. 

Do they have any servicing or maintenance costs?

zxzxzx

bob2302 said:

wrf12345 said:

"It was reported on a different thread that A2A might only get a £1.5k grant. So don't get you hopes up."
That would cover a single A2A in London, perhaps two in the badlands, so halfway there where I live and about the same as a low end boiler install in overall pricing for four (assuming gas remains for heating water or instant-on and electric shower in smaller properties).

Are those figures realistic? Someone posted a link to one which was £2 - 2.5k without labour.

Personally I don't think I need more than one. Most of my central heating goes into my living room anyway. 

Do they have any servicing or maintenance costs?

My single A2A (Midea) was £1500 fitted 16 months ago. 10 year guarantee, IF, you have an annual service at £180p.a. Servicing seemed to be a filter clean and general check over…I won’t bother next year.