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CPM PCN for residential car park - Tenant

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  • cavebr
    cavebr Posts: 9 Forumite
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    Thank you so much for your replies. 

    So my next steps are,

    Contact management company for flats. 

    Ignore letter?

    Keep ignoring letters?

    Respond to first debt collection letter but don’t pay?

    Potentially go to court? (Is this likely? Especially as it is two tickets in question?)


    I have already appealed internally with CPM but they have rejected it. 

    I know the law is due to change for these companies - they have until Dec 2026 to comply as are existing?- but will the changes in the law apply to cases that happened before the change in law? I’m concerned it wouldn’t. 
  • 1505grandad
    1505grandad Posts: 3,811 Forumite
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    ".........they have until Dec 2026 to comply as are existing?- but will the changes in the law apply to cases that happened before the change in law?

    Please clarify as to which LAW you are referring to.
  • cavebr
    cavebr Posts: 9 Forumite
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    Sorry, not exactly a law. I’m referring to the new private parking code of practice. 
  • LDast
    LDast Posts: 2,496 Forumite
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    cavebr said:
    Respond to first debt collection letter but don’t pay?
    Never, ever, ever, ever, ever ever, and I stress... NEVER EVER contact a useless debt collector. They are powerless and their only purpose is to scare low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree into capitulating and paying into the scam.

    Have you actually read the Newbies/FAQ thread?

    You can safely ignore the debt collector letters. Use them as packing for your glassware when you move, is one suggested use.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,471 Forumite
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    cavebr said:
    Sorry, not exactly a law. I’m referring to the new private parking code of practice. 
    That isn't the new statutory private parking Code of Practice.  Don't give that rubbish press release from the industry any credence whatsoever!

    It was timed to fool the press and public.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • cavebr
    cavebr Posts: 9 Forumite
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    So just ignore the letters totally? And the. Potentially be taken to court?
    I have read the Newbie thread but it’s honestly a lot to take in and not the easiest picking out which parts apply to my situation and which don’t?
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 152,471 Forumite
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    edited 5 October 2024 at 1:40PM
    Post 4 of it then post 2. Read in that order.

    There is not "a lot to take in" at post 4 of the NEWBIES thread - which is your stage - and we ask for no posts about the threatograms, please. Seen them all!

    Stop looking for a 'next step'. I dislike that phrase.  Just get on with life. Ignore.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • pustit
    pustit Posts: 267 Forumite
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    cavebr said:
    Hi,

    Hoping someone can help me with some advice here. 

    I am a tenant in a block of flats with a car park catering to residents in the flats. There is a parking space allocated to the flat I rent (not own) and I usually have to display a permit - this was explained by estate agents when I moved in. 

    Recently my car the permit is in broke down and was rendered unusable (away from the flat). I didn’t think to grab the permit if I needed it. 

    Whole my car was being repaired I borrowed another persons car on a few occasions and parked in my allocated space - but without showing a permit, as it was stuck in my regular car at the garage! There is nowhere else to park my car in the area - all roads around it are permit controlled by the council. I wrote a note in the windscreen explaining the situation. This happened at a weekend and I was unable to get through to CPM to get a temporary permit. 

    Over the next few weeks I parked in there occasionally. I kept ringing CPM to get a temporary permit but was unable to get through until two weeks after. By this time they had sent me two PCNs. 

    I appealed these PCNs using the reasoning that the parking space is allocated to my flat and I had been unable to get through to them for a temporary permit. The temporary permits can only be obtained via phone, not by email etc. They are only open office hours and not weekends. 

    They have just refused my appeals on both the two tickets. I know many will say not to pay, but technically I didn’t have a permit on display. I don’t know if my being unable to get through to get a temporary permit is enough of a mitigating factor. 

    I am also about a month of exchanging on a house and soon to be moving - so I really don’t want anyone impacting my credit rating right now. It annoys me so much but I’m debating just paying the two (TWO!!) notices at a price of £120 total as I can’t deal with the stress of them pursuing me right now. 

    Any advice? I am away at the moment but will try ringing the management company when I’m back … not super hopeful as I’m not the owner of the flat. Estate agent/owner also next to useless. As much as it seems like a lot of money wondering if it’s just worth my time to pay, forget about it and in a month or two not have to worry about stupid permit companies as I’ll have moved!
    Going back to your OP.  Unless I have missed something did they post tickets to your address or were they on the windscreen of the borrowed car?  
  • cavebr
    cavebr Posts: 9 Forumite
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    They posted them to the address of the owner of the car - who I do live with, but they haven’t updated their vehicle address yet. 
  • pustit
    pustit Posts: 267 Forumite
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    Oh, thanks for clarifying that
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