FTTP installation issue

Tabone01

I'd like FTTP but don't really have anywhere to put it!

It's a new build and the fibre would enter at the front of the house where the kitchen and hall are. The hall has two plug sockets but they are 2m away from the front wall where the fibre would enter. It's separated by a bathroom

I don't  have space in the hall for a router anyway.

The current phone master socket is in the living room at the back of the house. The phone line comes into the front of the house and through the cavity walls to that socket.

Can I have FTTP? I can't see how the fibre can reach the living room when it comes into the front of the house and needs to be at the back where I would connect.

It's a terrace so it can't go around the outside of the property.

Can the fibre enter the property and be fed to the living room via the same route as the phone line? (Via the cavity walls)

Or does the fibre box need to be closer to the entry point?

Any help appreciated!

Thanks

iniltous

What network ( Openreach , City Fibre , Netomnia, etc ) do you have available ?
when you say new build , how new is new ? , Openreach for many years have provided FTTP as standard, providing the developer contacted them , so a new build , ( definition , you the first occupant in a very recently constructed property  ) it would be unusual not to have FTTP already installed before you even move in , that is unless the developer made a conscious decision not to involve Openreach , OR are not the only network provider, the developer may have intended to make other arrangements not including OR .

molerat

Does it come from a pole or underground ?

They won't run it through the inside of the house unless here is a clear open duct with a cord to pull through or an existing fibre laid in for them to splice into.

Tabone01

Thanks for your comments.

There is no FTTP port in my house (it is new build, but 8 years old now).

The current cable enters the house from the ground outside at the front. Thanks for letting me know they wont feed it via the walls. There isnt any ducting or pull cords.

Thanks again

housebuyer143

Tabone01 said:

Thanks for your comments.

There is no FTTP port in my house (it is new build, but 8 years old now).

The current cable enters the house from the ground outside at the front. Thanks for letting me know they wont feed it via the walls. There isnt any ducting or pull cords.

Thanks again

They will tac it to the walls if no ducting so it can be moved to the back of the house but might not look look the best.

forgotmyname

We have a similar issue.  Just spoke to Plusnet about Full Fibre and watching some installations.

They mostly appear to put the ONT on the inside of the property right opposite the external junction box.  We have no sockets on
the external wall where the junction box would be fitted.

Currently our phone lines are at the rear of the property in the back room where I have CAT cable installed from the Router to a switch
and NAS boxes etc.

I don't like the idea of having cables run along the floor or skirting, it will require a fairly long run of cable and it will be rather unsightly.

Can they push/pull the fibre through the existing phone sockets?  What other options have people chosen?

Just come off the phone whilst writing this post and it's booked for 7 days time. Hoping someone has some good suggestions.

Thanks.

iniltous

If the CSP ( where the external optical cable and internal optical cables are spliced together ) is on the front of the property ( for example ) but the ONT is required at the rear , provided there is a route front to back for cable on the wall ( so semi or detached houses ) the installer will run the cable around the building , they won’t entertain long internal routes through the house ( too time consuming and potentially problematic maintaining the minimum bend radius ) 
If the installer won’t agree to the location of the ONT that the customer wants , because it’s impractical or will take hours to cable , the customer can provide an Ethernet cable themselves to locate the router wherever they like ( running that cable themselves from the ONT ) or they can refuse the installation and the job can be cancelled .
Having the ONT sited internally immediately opposite the external CSP position is obviously the ideal situation for the installer ( the least amount of work ) but the locations  of the CSP and ONT are to a certain extent negotiable with the installer.

forgotmyname

Terraced house here and there are no sockets on the front external facing walls.  Hoping they can feed it through to the existing
sockets and mount it there.

We did have 2 lines at one point so 2 BT sockets, I think they fed a 2nd cable in because I asked them not to split the line which would
have affected the internet back then.

Anyone had the fibre fed through from underground to an existing internal position?

Thanks.

iniltous

If the cable from outside hits the front of the property, and because it’s terraced, no external route using cable on the wall exists, front to back , it’s probable that the installer won’t drill a hole to enter at the front and then cable a long way internally along skirting and around door frames to get to the rear of the property, there is a nominal maximum distance, 10m ( I think ) but obviously time is an also an issue , you can’t really expect the tech to take hours to run a cable , contractors especially will not devote a lot of time to do this  , they get paid per job , and won’t take ‘forever’ to do a single installation ( don’t forget it’s not just the internal work , but the external work , authentication, and the travel time to get you  that is part of the 2 to 2.5 hours budget  per job. ) 

You can use temporary power ( extension lead ) while you explore a permanent power solution, if the ONT has to be at the front , or consider the first available power outlet available after the cable enters the property and in either case , you then run your own Ethernet cable from the ONT to where you want the router ( the ONT and router connected by a regular Ethernet cable ) but it’s better to be prepared, as jobs do fail when the customer has unrealistic expectations of what the installer will do , AFAIK there is a superior install that increases the internal cable allowance to 30m but you pay more ( at least the ISP has to order it and pay Openreach more ) so the ISP will charge the customer more and AFAIK, it’s ordered before not requested on the day .