TV license (Telling us you don't need a TV license form_

powerful_Rogue

PRAISETHESUN said:

powerful_Rogue said:

oldernonethewiser said:

The monthly letters I get are still, years after I moved in, addressed to "The Occupier"

Never felt the need to respond to any of them so into the recycling they go.

No doubt like me, years later you are still in the final stages of their investigation with the letter still being addressed to the occupier!

Mate, surely the BBC, being the quality establishment that they are, would not drag a fair citizen such as yourself under the bus without sufficient evidence. I dare say that their "investigation" is taking such a length of time because they want to make sure that they are  treating you fairly and want to make sure that at the end of the day that justice shall prevail.

We'll find out soon, their latest letter said they will be visiting on the 2nd October, then in the small print is said 'or another day'.......

wymondham

wilkko73 said:

I haven't got a tv license as  on demand content from Neflix and sometimes Amazon Prime and also some youtube content,we don't use BBC i player or ever watch any live content.
I have had a new declaration e mail today from the Tv license people and one of the questions it asks is Do you or does anyone in your household ever watch TV on any TV service? For example, on:

   
I'm wondering why they had asked this and why haven't they mentioned well known services like Amazon Prime and Netflix or are Amazon Prime and Netflix/youtube not what they are thinking of in the TV service question? do I answer yes or no to that question?

I'm a little late to this thread but i have to ask, why contact the BBC?  you dont have to and in doing so you are authorising them to keep your details. let this lapse and become 'legal occupier' .... easy!

silverwhistle

What if you're an 'illegal occupier'?

wilkko73

wymondham said:

wilkko73 said:

I haven't got a tv license as  on demand content from Neflix and sometimes Amazon Prime and also some youtube content,we don't use BBC i player or ever watch any live content.
I have had a new declaration e mail today from the Tv license people and one of the questions it asks is Do you or does anyone in your household ever watch TV on any TV service? For example, on:

   
I'm wondering why they had asked this and why haven't they mentioned well known services like Amazon Prime and Netflix or are Amazon Prime and Netflix/youtube not what they are thinking of in the TV service question? do I answer yes or no to that question?

I'm a little late to this thread but i have to ask, why contact the BBC?  you dont have to and in doing so you are authorising them to keep your details. let this lapse and become 'legal occupier' .... easy!

Hi we were on their database as we always had a license before that

Sapindus

If the BBC made the licence fee a pay-per-month thing I might just consider paying it over Christmas.  I'm not sure it's worth the bother of setting up a direct debit then cancelling it.  I've also just had the "investigation" letter having recently moved in.  I'm annoyed because it says I ignored heir previous letter, which I didn't because I wasn't here, so they can whistle.

prowla

powerful_Rogue said:

PRAISETHESUN said:

powerful_Rogue said:

oldernonethewiser said:

The monthly letters I get are still, years after I moved in, addressed to "The Occupier"

Never felt the need to respond to any of them so into the recycling they go.

No doubt like me, years later you are still in the final stages of their investigation with the letter still being addressed to the occupier!

Mate, surely the BBC, being the quality establishment that they are, would not drag a fair citizen such as yourself under the bus without sufficient evidence. I dare say that their "investigation" is taking such a length of time because they want to make sure that they are  treating you fairly and want to make sure that at the end of the day that justice shall prevail.

We'll find out soon, their latest letter said they will be visiting on the 2nd October, then in the small print is said 'or another day'.......

Remember, you do not have to let them enter your property, nor give them any information.

prowla

Sapindus said:

If the BBC made the licence fee a pay-per-month thing I might just consider paying it over Christmas.  I'm not sure it's worth the bother of setting up a direct debit then cancelling it.  I've also just had the "investigation" letter having recently moved in.  I'm annoyed because it says I ignored heir previous letter, which I didn't because I wasn't here, so they can whistle.

Well, I was thinking of ditching the TV licence and then I realised that there is a heck of a lot of good watching on the BBC and ITV broadcast channels.

I decided that approx £15 a month is a pretty good deal.

Compare that to £5.99 a month for ITVx, $9.99/month for Amazon Prime, etc.

Cornucopia

prowla said:

Sapindus said:

If the BBC made the licence fee a pay-per-month thing I might just consider paying it over Christmas.  I'm not sure it's worth the bother of setting up a direct debit then cancelling it.  I've also just had the "investigation" letter having recently moved in.  I'm annoyed because it says I ignored heir previous letter, which I didn't because I wasn't here, so they can whistle.

Well, I was thinking of ditching the TV licence and then I realised that there is a heck of a lot of good watching on the BBC and ITV broadcast channels.

I decided that approx £15 a month is a pretty good deal.

Compare that to £5.99 a month for ITVx, $9.99/month for Amazon Prime, etc.

Is it a fair comparison, though?   For a start, you can watch ITV content on-demand without needing a TV Licence or a subscription.   The subscription to ITVx is to obtain the content with minimal ads, which you cannot do with the broadcast version.  

I don't have a TV Licence, so I won't be watching it, but I was shown the Christmas schedules for the main broadcast channels, and it doesn't look like I'll be missing much.

prowla

Cornucopia said:

prowla said:

Sapindus said:

If the BBC made the licence fee a pay-per-month thing I might just consider paying it over Christmas.  I'm not sure it's worth the bother of setting up a direct debit then cancelling it.  I've also just had the "investigation" letter having recently moved in.  I'm annoyed because it says I ignored heir previous letter, which I didn't because I wasn't here, so they can whistle.

Well, I was thinking of ditching the TV licence and then I realised that there is a heck of a lot of good watching on the BBC and ITV broadcast channels.

I decided that approx £15 a month is a pretty good deal.

Compare that to £5.99 a month for ITVx, $9.99/month for Amazon Prime, etc.

Is it a fair comparison, though?   For a start, you can watch ITV content on-demand without needing a TV Licence or a subscription.   The subscription to ITVx is to obtain the content with minimal ads, which you cannot do with the broadcast version.  

I don't have a TV Licence, so I won't be watching it, but I was shown the Christmas schedules for the main broadcast channels, and it doesn't look like I'll be missing much.

I take your point, but I found ITVx free unwatchable - the ads totally disrupt the viewing; the idea of paying $6 for fewer ads on just one content provider is having a giraffe.

In contrast, BBC has no ads (well, apart from for its own programmes), so I'd say the viewing experience on BBC is better.

But the gist was adding up those individual services (insert Netflix, Disney+, AppleTV, before the "etc.").

I've got NowTV movies for 6 months and I found myself struggling to find movies I wanted to watch.

As far as ads go, I have a Freesat recording box, so I can record broadcast programmes and skip over the ads; that's better than any of the streaming services where you can't skip the ads at all.

Cornucopia

prowla said:

Cornucopia said:

prowla said:

Sapindus said:

If the BBC made the licence fee a pay-per-month thing I might just consider paying it over Christmas.  I'm not sure it's worth the bother of setting up a direct debit then cancelling it.  I've also just had the "investigation" letter having recently moved in.  I'm annoyed because it says I ignored heir previous letter, which I didn't because I wasn't here, so they can whistle.

Well, I was thinking of ditching the TV licence and then I realised that there is a heck of a lot of good watching on the BBC and ITV broadcast channels.

I decided that approx £15 a month is a pretty good deal.

Compare that to £5.99 a month for ITVx, $9.99/month for Amazon Prime, etc.

Is it a fair comparison, though?   For a start, you can watch ITV content on-demand without needing a TV Licence or a subscription.   The subscription to ITVx is to obtain the content with minimal ads, which you cannot do with the broadcast version.  

I don't have a TV Licence, so I won't be watching it, but I was shown the Christmas schedules for the main broadcast channels, and it doesn't look like I'll be missing much.

I take your point, but I found ITVx free unwatchable - the ads totally disrupt the viewing; the idea of paying $6 for fewer ads on just one content provider is having a giraffe.

In contrast, BBC has no ads (well, apart from for its own programmes), so I'd say the viewing experience on BBC is better.

But the gist was adding up those individual services (insert Netflix, Disney+, AppleTV, before the "etc.").

I've got NowTV movies for 6 months and I found myself struggling to find movies I wanted to watch.

As far as ads go, I have a Freesat recording box, so I can record broadcast programmes and skip over the ads; that's better than any of the streaming services where you can't skip the ads at all.

I haven't watched ITVx (when I had a TV Licence, I didn't watch ITV either) but we know from viewing figures that ITV remains popular.   

The virtue of BBC having no ads is a slightly controversial take - the reason why there are no ads is because they are legally prohibited, and because the BBC effectively charges c. £14 per month for its services, making it on the more expensive side of "subscription" services.

I've heard the "but all the streaming services together would cost much more" argument before.   I still don't really understand it.  Why would you need all the streaming services, if you didn't need all the streaming services?   

Broadcast recording to avoid ads isn't really a sustainable model - if everyone did that, the broadcasters funded by advertising would quickly go to the wall.

I have no TV Licence, and my subscription service of choice is Youtube Premium.   So, Youtube without ads (bliss) and within that a certain amount of archive from C4, C5 and (even) the BBC, ad-free.   It provides excellent value for me, but I can see that other people might derive excellent value from Netflix, or from their TV Licence.    Each to their own (or at least it would be without the BBC's virtual tanks on my actual lawn).