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ECO scheme and other schemes for boilers, tenants, not owner occupiers

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  • Chrysalis
    Chrysalis Posts: 4,724 Forumite
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    edited 23 October 2024 at 2:46PM
    New boiler still not in yet, but interestingly my bill was £6 cheaper than the last bill when boiler was working, this is with multiple use of immersion, and extra use of dehumidifier as my internal humidity is getting crazy.
    Since gas was sealed I am currently saving money on the pilot light usage.
    More than half of the immersion usage has been during negative or sub 5p pricing on Agile.
  • FreeBear
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    Chrysalis said: New boiler still not in yet
    Do you know the make & model of the boiler that is due to be installed ?
    (just being nosy :))

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  • Chrysalis
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    FreeBear said:
    Chrysalis said: New boiler still not in yet
    Do you know the make & model of the boiler that is due to be installed ?
    (just being nosy :))


    No idea, but I should be able to tell you late next week.
  • Chrysalis
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    FreeBear said:
    Chrysalis said: New boiler still not in yet
    Do you know the make & model of the boiler that is due to be installed ?
    (just being nosy :))


    Dont bash it :wink:

    Logic Plus Heat H12 said on the box.  I had a look and yeah you right some boilers are cheaper then I thought they all were.

  • FreeBear
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    Chrysalis said:
    FreeBear said:
    Chrysalis said: New boiler still not in yet
    Do you know the make & model of the boiler that is due to be installed ?
    (just being nosy :))


    Dont bash it :wink:

    Logic Plus Heat H12 said on the box.  I had a look and yeah you right some boilers are cheaper then I thought they all were.
    Shop around, and you can find that model for under £1000 (one on ebay for just £700). 7 year warranty (10y on the main heat exchanger). Rated output from 5kW up to 12kW, so not a huge modulation range, but not too bad for the price. OpenTherm compatible, so if paired with a suitable programmable thermostat, potential to be quite efficient. If a new, well insulated DHW tank (and thermostat) has been installed, you should see a saving of up to 25% on gas. Perhaps a bit more if larger radiators have also been fitted.

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  • Chrysalis
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    edited 29 October 2024 at 3:21PM
    On water the saving seems bigger, about 40% consumption according to smart meter.
    Also no idle pilot light on this thing. :)
  • FreeBear
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    Chrysalis said: Also no idle pilot light on this thing. :)
    That will save you somewhere between 1500kW and 2000kW per year.
    I'd taken to turning the gas off except when I needed heating with my old Baxi back boiler. Combined with a few other changes (smarter controls, better insulation, etc), went from 8000kW per year down to around 3000kW.

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  • Chrysalis
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    FreeBear said:
    Chrysalis said: Also no idle pilot light on this thing. :)
    That will save you somewhere between 1500kW and 2000kW per year.
    I'd taken to turning the gas off except when I needed heating with my old Baxi back boiler. Combined with a few other changes (smarter controls, better insulation, etc), went from 8000kW per year down to around 3000kW.


    Better on central heating as well, before the radiators would need an hour before they started feeling warm, now they are fairly hot within 5-10 minutes.
  • FreeBear
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    Chrysalis said:
    FreeBear said:
    Chrysalis said: Also no idle pilot light on this thing. :)
    That will save you somewhere between 1500kW and 2000kW per year.
    I'd taken to turning the gas off except when I needed heating with my old Baxi back boiler. Combined with a few other changes (smarter controls, better insulation, etc), went from 8000kW per year down to around 3000kW.


    Better on central heating as well, before the radiators would need an hour before they started feeling warm, now they are fairly hot within 5-10 minutes.
    Play around with the flow temperatures - If you can wind it down to 60°C, you'll get better efficiency out of the boiler. 50°C would be even better, especially if the radiators have been properly balanced and the pump speed turned down.
    But reducing the flow temperature is a compromise if you don't have big radiators and want a decent temperature indoors when it is freezing outside. I'm currently running at around 50°C with an outside temperature of 8-10°C - With the radiators I've got, that is enough to raise the internal temperature by 1°C per hour.

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    Treasure the moments that you have. Savour them for as long as you can for they will never come back again.
  • Chrysalis
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    I think it will end up just above 60C, I have set it to the efficiency logo which is 67C, but I think I can get away with dropping it a few degrees. :)
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