Best way to sell a M1 Imac Mint condition?

johnc

soolin said:

Don’t forget with eBay you need to factor in fees and postage as well .

Exactly and its over 12% which is quite a bit for fees - postage decided not to do (to my detriment) as I have no experience of sending large items like that and it scares me a bit that it might get damaged etc - plus would have to buy the outer brown shipping box and no idea to find one that's exactly the right size of the iMac box. 

At the moment I am leaning towards selling it to Music Magpie for £615 but worried they receive it and try and tell me it's not worth as much (which I have heard companies do). Might give them a call first. Though will try and sell on Facebook Marketplace or eBay for more than that over the next few days  

soolin

If you are thinking of ebaying it, or re trying ebay - then wait for a FVF offer day- assuming you receive them. If the current pattern continues there should be one this next weekend. I get offers of 70% off my FVFs, others get as much as 80% off.

rollingmoon

johnc said:

Yes have put it on collection only on eBay but having very little interest at the moment it seems. I guess I am used to Apple products generally not depreciating that much - especially if they are in mint condition and not used much. Yes I buy second hand for certain products too but then I am picky as some people don't take care of their devices whereas I am probably over obsessive about taking care of devices ha! 

Second hand Apple stuff depreciates badly because they deliberately obsolete their own kit by withdrawing security updates and making it difficult for users to move to a newer version of the OS, thereby pushing the user into buying a new machine. Obviously Microsoft do this too, just not as often as they have less interest in forcing people to buy new computers.

I'm writing this on a MacBook Pro that cost me £50 earlier this year... i7 chipset, 16Gb of RAM and now perfectly safe to use now with a modern OS that receives security updates (Linux Mint). It's at least as quick as my OH's 2 year old work HP laptop, which looks like a cheap piece of tat next to the MacBook with its aluminium body and pin sharp display. Disasters aside I expect to get at least another three years out of it. The 27" iMacs are a lot of computer for pennies too; I picked up a 2015 model a couple of months ago - same issue with the obsolete OS - for £200... fantastic bit of kit now it's running LM. All older than yours, obviously, but the same issue will keep the values of newer models low because most people can't be bothered to do what I do, or in the case of the models which are Apple Silicon rather than Intel-based it's a lot harder.

johnc

soolin said:

If you are thinking of ebaying it, or re trying ebay - then wait for a FVF offer day- assuming you receive them. If the current pattern continues there should be one this next weekend. I get offers of 70% off my FVFs, others get as much as 80% off.

That's a good point and I have seen those offers mentioned on Hotukdeals but everytime I click on them in recent times it's not valid for me! I don't really understand why because it's been consistently like that for the last 6 months - years ago they used to work for me. Maybe because I haven't sold anything on there for years? Ha. I think key to success on eBay is having an item you can send and I know if I sent it out then it would be much easier to sell but I am just not so comfortable sending this big item. 

At the moment I am leaning towards taking the Music Magpie offer of £615 though there might be one credible offer for £675-700 from Facebook Marketplace - let's see. It's annoying selling this thing to be honest - my previous Macbooks I easily sold in my workplace and because its the workplace people trust more I suppose whereas selling an item like this on Facebook Marketplace I feel is incredibly frustrating. 

johnc

rollingmoon said:

johnc said:

Yes have put it on collection only on eBay but having very little interest at the moment it seems. I guess I am used to Apple products generally not depreciating that much - especially if they are in mint condition and not used much. Yes I buy second hand for certain products too but then I am picky as some people don't take care of their devices whereas I am probably over obsessive about taking care of devices ha! 

Second hand Apple stuff depreciates badly because they deliberately obsolete their own kit by withdrawing security updates and making it difficult for users to move to a newer version of the OS, thereby pushing the user into buying a new machine. Obviously Microsoft do this too, just not as often as they have less interest in forcing people to buy new computers.

I'm writing this on a MacBook Pro that cost me £50 earlier this year... i7 chipset, 16Gb of RAM and now perfectly safe to use now with a modern OS that receives security updates (Linux Mint). It's at least as quick as my OH's 2 year old work HP laptop, which looks like a cheap piece of tat next to the MacBook with its aluminium body and pin sharp display. Disasters aside I expect to get at least another three years out of it. The 27" iMacs are a lot of computer for pennies too; I picked up a 2015 model a couple of months ago - same issue with the obsolete OS - for £200... fantastic bit of kit now it's running LM. All older than yours, obviously, but the same issue will keep the values of newer models low because most people can't be bothered to do what I do, or in the case of the models which are Apple Silicon rather than Intel-based it's a lot harder.

Personally I don't quite agree on the first part - I had my 2016 Macbook Pro up until a month or so back and would have continued to use it for another 2 years had it not been for a failed screen as Monterey gets it's last security update this year and if you are using Google Chrome mainly after that then it's fine from a security standpoint. So nearly 9 years of updates I don't see as bad. 

£50 for a Macbook Pro - do tell where from and which year? I replaced my 2016 Macbook Pro a month ago with a 15 inch M2 Macbook Air which I got on eBay for £500 battery cycle count 9 so really quite new.

I had been tempted by the 2019 Macbook Pro and also M1 Macbook Pro but decided to go for the Air - and it's great though I do miss the Macbook Pro higher resolution screen slightly! That's one thing I really love about the iMac the 4.5k screen. For me I do prefer Apple Silicon and generally latest or one of the latest OS for the various bits of functionality, handoff between various devices and just things that are important to me such as Dolby Atmos! Ha. That was one thing I really missed on my 2016 Macbook Pro. 

rollingmoon

johnc said:

£50 for a Macbook Pro - do tell where from and which year?

eBay and 2012, but it's not the year that's important, it's the spec... which is still eminently usable, especially under Linux. Seller said the battery was likely shot, but it actually has 55% capacity which is fine for my usage. When it dips much below that I'll buy it a new one and it can take over as my main laptop; the sturdy casing certainly lends itself to surviving flights in hand luggage better than my Dell Inspiron. The Macbook has a nicer keyboard and display too; the trackpad is horrible but TBH I just hate trackpads - I always have a wireless mouse in my bag!

johnc

rollingmoon said:

johnc said:

£50 for a Macbook Pro - do tell where from and which year?

eBay and 2012, but it's not the year that's important, it's the spec... which is still eminently usable, especially under Linux. Seller said the battery was likely shot, but it actually has 55% capacity which is fine for my usage. When it dips much below that I'll buy it a new one and it can take over as my main laptop; the sturdy casing certainly lends itself to surviving flights in hand luggage better than my Dell Inspiron. The Macbook has a nicer keyboard and display too; the trackpad is horrible but TBH I just hate trackpads - I always have a wireless mouse in my bag!

Well £50 is a steal for sure for any Macbook Pro from 2012 - I had a 2012 Retina one that I sold in 2016 when I got the newer ones but given all the issues with the 2016-18 ones I should have stuck to the 2012 one! Ha. Mind you the 2016 Macbook Pro had the topcase replaced in 2022 by Apple for free given the keyboard issues which was nice of them but then the display went out just a month ago which I was gutted by given the near new battery/topcase. Oh I actually love the trackpad - for me it's so much better than a mouse - being able to swipe so quickly and easily - much quicker! It was one of the great things in the Mac World that I loved when I first switched from Windows.

johnc

Thanks to everyone that responded. Just as a final note I sold it for £650 on Facebook Marketplace. I think it's the best I could have gotten for collection. Though I think if I had sold it on eBay and posted it I could have gotten more (though that's if you can get a fee offer and minimise the fees). 

se2020

johnc said:

Thanks to everyone that responded. Just as a final note I sold it for £650 on Facebook Marketplace. I think it's the best I could have gotten for collection. Though I think if I had sold it on eBay and posted it I could have gotten more (though that's if you can get a fee offer and minimise the fees). 

Not much more. 
Selling for £800 on ebay would return you £695.50 after fees.
To get £800 you would probably have to offer free postage which would cost you another £20.

Then you run the risk of a return if it breaks in a weeks time. Or a false return if the buyer drops it or just doesn't like it. Or, like one buyer I had recently,  finds a cheaper one 2 weeks later.. or a dodgy buyer that swaps working parts from yours to another...

£650 collected sounds good to me.

johnc

se2020 said:

johnc said:

Thanks to everyone that responded. Just as a final note I sold it for £650 on Facebook Marketplace. I think it's the best I could have gotten for collection. Though I think if I had sold it on eBay and posted it I could have gotten more (though that's if you can get a fee offer and minimise the fees). 

Not much more. 
Selling for £800 on ebay would return you £695.50 after fees.
To get £800 you would probably have to offer free postage which would cost you another £20.

Then you run the risk of a return if it breaks in a weeks time. Or a false return if the buyer drops it or just doesn't like it. Or, like one buyer I had recently,  finds a cheaper one 2 weeks later.. or a dodgy buyer that swaps working parts from yours to another...

£650 collected sounds good to me.

Well I had it as a "Buy it Now" for £750 (collection only) on eBay and it wasn't getting much interest except an offer for £700 which I rejected as after fees that would be £600. 

Gosh didn't realise there was so many dodgy buyers on eBay. I have rarely sold things on eBay - a long time I sold an iphone and got scammed! The guy collected and then eBay told me the account that bought the iphone was hacked and so the money for the purchase had to go back and so I was left out of pocket! It was unbelievable and then googled it at the time and found it was a well known scam. I was so annoyed of being £600 out of pocket because I wasn't aware of this scam. But that's good to know about potential dodgy buyers - in that way Facebook Marketplace with getting cash in hand/bank transfer is better for the seller I suppose. 

Yes £650 I think is as good as it gets given I just heard the new M4 iMacs are coming out in October so as soon as that happens the older iMacs are going to depreciate a bit more.