Full Fibre installation questions

Skintsaver

I've just signed up to Vodafone Broadband. And was supprissed to learn that open reach will have to visit. Especially as I was a Vodafone customer previously.

I'm switching from the Awful 5g service from three. 

I'm getting full Fibre hense why open reach need to install it. 

As part of this can I choose exactly within my home where I'd like the ONT to be installed? I'm thinking behind my TV, cables can be ran under the suspended floor and the router could be here as well. Failing that maybe under the stairs but I have a lot going on under there so it may interfere with the hubs? Or maybe I could have it in my spare room and then there will be no need to run a cable externally but the ONT then will be installed within an fixed built-in wardrobe, I can see Open reach being against that. I really don't want it in my hallway(this was part of the reason I chose threw home 5g broadband.)

Will the cable be ran overhead from the nearest pole like the old copper cables and can I choose where this will be fixed to and ran externally I'm thinking it can run next to the sky cables. I read they may have to dig my drive I guess that's if you currently don't have a nearby pole?

Will the old phone point inside be removed and all external cabling to the poles? 

How have I not heard until now that the copper services will be switched off in 2027. This is going to cause lots of issues.

housebuyer143

If you have a phone line coming in via a pole then that's how your FTTP is coming in as well. It's likely gonna to enter the house at the same point and then be in run inside. 
I recently had mine installed and open reach engineer said he hated those jobs as so much cabling to run inside the house. 

You need a double socket next to the ONT box so unless you have that under your stairs and in your wardrobe then it's a non starter, I also wouldn't recommend putting it in a place where it's obstructed because you will affect the signal. 

You can have it in the spare room but the ONT box has 3 very bright lights on it all the time, so you will have to cover those. 

iniltous

You can ask for the installation of the ONT to be anywhere you like , but there is no guarantee the installer will agree to your request, it has to be reasonable, so expecting cabling under floors , in lofts , behind furniture ( unless you move the furniture) isn’t likely to be acceptable, however they are not going to deny a reasonable request.
As far as the fixing on the house , unless it’s inaccessible the one used for the copper dropwire will be used for the fibre dropwire .

In essence, each install has a time budget, they are not going to spend hour upon hour on a single installation, contractors especially ( and there is a good chance it will be a contractor ) are paid by the job , and completing 4 jobs in an 8 hour day ( including travel between jobs ) is obviously twice are financially rewarding as only completing 2 jobs .

If anyone’s existing service is overhead , the FTTP will be overhead, the only ‘digging’ is if the current service is underground but not ducted , or ducted but the duct blocked .
The old copper dropwire and master socket may be removed that depends on the installer .

Copper pairs service is not being switched off by 2027 , that’s the PSTN phone network, many people will be on copper pair service for many years after that , they will ( generally speaking though  ) need to plug their phone into the router to use telephony ( rather than the phone socket on the wall )  ,  all that’s  happening is  by 2027, the  PSTN telephony service will be moved completely to IP ( Internet protocol ) ,  of course FTTP is also being rolled out at the same time , but that won’t be complete by 2027 ,  it has different timescales.

Ayr_Rage

The ONT is normally installed very close to the entry point due to the nature of the fibre cable, it is somewhat fragile and the bending radius means it cannot be easily routed around doors frames etc.

Skintsaver

I guess even if the installer leaves the old copper cable and phone box, I'll be free to remove this? There's a splice box on my soffit anyway, so will Just disconnect from here. 

For the new ONT I'll run some  25mm kopex with a draw wire and have the boards lifted ready for the installer. And maybe have 2 options ready for him. For being under my stairs and behind the TV. 

Is there a requirement for the external connection to be easily accessible so not on my 2nd story? If so the spare bedroom will be out of the equation. 

Where ever I need additional sockets I'll get them installed, that's no problem.

 I just don't want it in my hallway 

iniltous

The chances are you and the installer will agree on a location for the ONt , and on how to proceed , obviously any time saving help  you provide ( like trunking with a draw rope ) is not likely to be refused.
Generally the CSP is provided at ground level , splicing fibre at the top of a ladder is best avoided ( a splicer is £3000 to £4000 , so you don’t want to drop it from height )  , plus minimising the time on a ladder to the bare minimum is desirable from a safety point of view .

Chino

Ayr_Rage said:

it is somewhat fragile and the bending radius means it cannot be easily routed around doors frames etc.

Whilst that might have been the case for the fibre used for your installation, the fibre used for my installation was routed easily around a doorframe and at nearly right angle bends through a hole in the wall.

35har1old

Skintsaver said:

I've just signed up to Vodafone Broadband. And was supprissed to learn that open reach will have to visit. Especially as I was a Vodafone customer previously.

I'm switching from the Awful 5g service from three. 

I'm getting full Fibre hense why open reach need to install it. 

As part of this can I choose exactly within my home where I'd like the ONT to be installed? I'm thinking behind my TV, cables can be ran under the suspended floor and the router could be here as well. Failing that maybe under the stairs but I have a lot going on under there so it may interfere with the hubs? Or maybe I could have it in my spare room and then there will be no need to run a cable externally but the ONT then will be installed within an fixed built-in wardrobe, I can see Open reach being against that. I really don't want it in my hallway(this was part of the reason I chose threw home 5g broadband.)

Will the cable be ran overhead from the nearest pole like the old copper cables and can I choose where this will be fixed to and ran externally I'm thinking it can run next to the sky cables. I read they may have to dig my drive I guess that's if you currently don't have a nearby pole?

Will the old phone point inside be removed and all external cabling to the poles? 

How have I not heard until now that the copper services will be switched off in 2027. This is going to cause lots of issues.

Is the TV near a outside wall?
If so the cable will enter through the wall then up into a white box which will have three lights when operating.
From this box the router is supplied Cable that comes with box is about 2M in length  then you have the power supply cable and plug.
Any further cabling will be down to you ie hard wiring to computer