Can you get council tax relief under SMI for schizoaffective disorder?

As well as mild intellectual disabilities. Under psychiatric care. I have always got council tax under SMI but this morning the council sent a form out addressed to my support workers to see if I have a permanent disability and for a doctor or social worker to say I have a permanently disability. Would my care coordinator who’s a LD community nurse be able to sign it?

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  • sheramber
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    Is she a   doctor or social worker?
  • Grumpy_chap
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    It is possible that the OP's Care Coordinator is not able to sign the declaration, but there is no harm in discussing it with them as the Care Coordinator should be able to advise whom within the OP's care envelope is suitable to request the review and signature (or otherwise) of the form.
  • elsien
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    She will be part of your care team so could pass it on to your psychiatrist if necessary. 
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  • kkkklinky
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    edited 7 September 2024 at 1:28AM
    I was advised that SMI could only be claimed for an organic disease or physical trauma resulting in intellectual impairment and damage to the brain or intellectual impairment that has no chance of improving  such as Alzheimer's, Dementia, Stroke, Brain damage, Multiple Schlerosis, Cerebral Palsy, Autism and learning difficulties etc. Mental health conditions are treatable with medication in the majority of cases and are not classed as permanent. My own partner tried to claim under 2 separate councils for Schizophrenia (we lived in 2 counties)and was refused by both even though he was violent and couldn't communicate properly with others. Some councils were incorrectly awarding SMI for mental health disorders due to GPs saying they were eligible(confusing Severe Mental Impairment with Severe Mental Illness). Some councils are now checking SMI claims to ensure people are actually eligible by asking if there is an actual impairment and whether an impairment is permanent. 

    Basically if a condition is treated with psychiatric drugs and/ or a psychiatrist it is not usually classed as a SMI. Personality disorders like BPD also don't count
  • Would mild intellectual disabilities go under the SMI criteria. I scored IQ 69 on a test and under the community learning disability team with a large support package from social services. On the form it says it's recommended a GP or social worker signs it. I can get my psychiatrist to sign it, thats not a problem but for ease would a community nurse be able to sign it?  I could also get my social worker to sign it from the CLDT. That might be the easiest option, I bet she fills them in all the time.
  • elsien
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    edited 7 September 2024 at 8:31AM
    kkkklinky said:
    I was advised that SMI could only be claimed for an organic disease or physical trauma resulting in intellectual impairment and damage to the brain or intellectual impairment that has no chance of improving  such as Alzheimer's, Dementia, Stroke, Brain damage, Multiple Schlerosis, Cerebral Palsy, Autism and learning difficulties etc. Mental health conditions are treatable with medication in the majority of cases and are not classed as permanent. My own partner tried to claim under 2 separate councils for Schizophrenia (we lived in 2 counties)and was refused by both even though he was violent and couldn't communicate properly with others. Some councils were incorrectly awarding SMI for mental health disorders due to GPs saying they were eligible(confusing Severe Mental Impairment with Severe Mental Illness). Some councils are now checking SMI claims to ensure people are actually eligible by asking if there is an actual impairment and whether an impairment is permanent. 

    Basically if a condition is treated with psychiatric drugs and/ or a psychiatrist it is not usually classed as a SMI. Personality disorders like BPD also don't count
    I have known people claim SMI for long-standing psychiatric illness where it has severely impacted on their ability over a long period of time to cope on a day-to-day basis even with medication. The impact of  an enduring mental health illness and its treatment can create a permanent cognitive impairment in some people, And is why some have to live in residential car because they can’t manage even with support in the community, 
    You are right for many people with medication. It’s not a permanent impairment. But for some people it is so it’s not an absolute “you can’t claim.”

    For the OP  I would suggest to use the learning disability and the mental health diagnosis on your form.
    however, because it’s finances, is this not something your deputy would complete?

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