Trying to understand SSP and salary

w00519773

I am currently off sick and will have been off for two weeks on Friday.  I have worked for my current employer for over 20 years and have never had to take sick leave before.

I am trying to understand how this will affect my salary next month.  I have checked my contract of employment and it states that half pay and nil pay are implemented after six months, which doesn't make sense to start with.  Does this mean I would receive full pay for six months and then nil pay after that i.e. I would have to be off sick for six months before my pay is reduced from full? I am planning to return at some point this week as it stands when I feel better.

Does it mean I would receive £116.75 and then as SSP (https://www.gov.uk/statutory-sick-pay) and then my employer tops up the rest so that I receive a full salary?

LinLui

I don't think we can make sense of a contract we can't see if you can't make sense of it when reading it! You should ask your employer. It doesn't make sense that both half pay and nil pay happen at the same time! 

Undervalued

w00519773 said:

I am currently off sick and will have been off for two weeks on Friday.  I have worked for my current employer for over 20 years and have never had to take sick leave before.

I am trying to understand how this will affect my salary next month.  I have checked my contract of employment and it states that half pay and nil pay are implemented after six months, which doesn't make sense to start with.  Does this mean I would receive full pay for six months and then nil pay after that i.e. I would have to be off sick for six months before my pay is reduced from full? I am planning to return at some point this week as it stands when I feel better.

Does it mean I would receive £116.75 and then as SSP (https://www.gov.uk/statutory-sick-pay) and then my employer tops up the rest so that I receive a full salary?

Yes, if those are your contractual terms. 

SSP, despite the name, is paid by the employer. In the past smaller business could indirectly reclaim the cost from the government but that is no longer the case. The government require the employer to pay SSP (from day four of absence to employees who are entitled) subject to certain conditions.

The traditional six months full pay then six months half pay was once widespread in the civil service, local government, large universities etc but is becoming rare for new appointments. Most company sick pay schemes these days are far less generous.

w00519773

Undervalued said:

w00519773 said:

I am currently off sick and will have been off for two weeks on Friday.  I have worked for my current employer for over 20 years and have never had to take sick leave before.

I am trying to understand how this will affect my salary next month.  I have checked my contract of employment and it states that half pay and nil pay are implemented after six months, which doesn't make sense to start with.  Does this mean I would receive full pay for six months and then nil pay after that i.e. I would have to be off sick for six months before my pay is reduced from full? I am planning to return at some point this week as it stands when I feel better.

Does it mean I would receive £116.75 and then as SSP (https://www.gov.uk/statutory-sick-pay) and then my employer tops up the rest so that I receive a full salary?

Yes, if those are your contractual terms. 

SSP, despite the name, is paid by the employer. In the past smaller business could indirectly reclaim the cost from the government but that is no longer the case. The government require the employer to pay SSP (from day four of absence to employees who are entitled) subject to certain conditions.

The traditional six months full pay then six months half pay was once widespread in the civil service, local government, large universities etc but is becoming rare for new appointments. Most company sick pay schemes these days are far less generous.

I work in the public sector, so that makes sense.  I have worked in my current role for over 20 years i.e. over 10 years, so I fall in the best tier with regards to sick leave entitlement.

Just to be clear - if I was off for 12 months then I would be entitled to six months at full pay; six months at half pay and then nothing after that. Just to be clear I plan to return this week after up to nine days absence. I am asking just so I understand the process going forward - I have never had to think about it before, fortunately.

TELLIT01

If your contract says full pay for 6 months, then half pay for 6 months, that is what you would be entitled to.  Without the exact wording of your contract nobody can be certain.  There is certainly no automatic entitlement to anything other than SSP (which also has caveats), unless it's in your contract.  Being at a company over 10 years doesn't come with more sick pay.

Undervalued

TELLIT01 said:

If your contract says full pay for 6 months, then half pay for 6 months, that is what you would be entitled to.  Without the exact wording of your contract nobody can be certain.  There is certainly no automatic entitlement to anything other than SSP (which also has caveats), unless it's in your contract.  Being at a company over 10 years doesn't come with more sick pay.

^^^^^ This answers the question you asked following my previous post.

Although in some companies / organisations the length of contractual sick pay entitlement might be linked to the length of service. It should be specified in either your contract or employee handbook etc.

LinLui

If you work in the public sector,  with few exceptions your entitlement after such long service would be six months full pay and six months half pay. But that is based purely on the fact that you said you work in the public sector,  and have 20 years service. It is normal.  But that didn't mean that it's accurate as we can't read your contract. 

Jaguar98

Just check your contract or ask HR directly to clarify the sick pay terms—it usually spells out exactly how long you get full or half pay.

sparkhe

I'm just trying to find out how much ssp I should be getting now .
I worked part time 20h a week Monday to Friday for the past 7 years and unfortunately I'm off work sick awaiting operation. 
I'm getting £256 a month is this right , I looked it up and what I could see was £116  regardless of full time or part time.
Yes we are struggling but surviving. 
You can't talk to HR or payroll anymore you have to go through line manger and I'm still wait 3 weeks on .
Any help would be great full 

EnPointe

w00519773 said:

I am currently off sick and will have been off for two weeks on Friday.  I have worked for my current employer for over 20 years and have never had to take sick leave before.

I am trying to understand how this will affect my salary next month.  I have checked my contract of employment and it states that half pay and nil pay are implemented after six months, which doesn't make sense to start with.  Does this mean I would receive full pay for six months and then nil pay after that i.e. I would have to be off sick for six months before my pay is reduced from full? I am planning to return at some point this week as it stands when I feel better.

Does it mean I would receive £116.75 and then as SSP (https://www.gov.uk/statutory-sick-pay) and then my employer tops up the rest so that I receive a full salary?

we need to see your contract or the sickness and absence policy / section of the employee handbook 

as you have said in  other replies you have a long standing  service within the public sector 

so for the first 6 months of sickness absence you would receive full pay ,  then 6 months at half pay then nothing  from the employer 

you  SSP  entitlement would be exhausted during the persiod you  recieved occupational sick pay  ( occupational sick pay  + ssp =  normal (base) pay  in most cases ) 

sheramber

https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/hm-revenue-customs/contact/statutory-payment-dispute-team