Bought car from dealer. Orange dash light. Now read on...

tedted

No for years now the eobd port must be in the cabin and be 16 pin and standard shape

born_again

tedted said:

No for years now the eobd port must be in the cabin and be 16 pin and standard shape

I guess replying to me.
Yes there is a OBD2 port.
But dealers have a dedicated port in the engine bay for their connection, which is set up to be for more accurate than obd2.

tedted

what car is that

fwor

born_again said:

But dealers have a dedicated port in the engine bay for their connection, which is set up to be for more accurate than obd2.

This is a new one on me - is it factually correct? 

Is there really a trend for car makers to have a standard OBD-based diagnostic port and also a separate connection (presumably using a proprietary, non-standardised protocol) elsewhere?

born_again

fwor said:

born_again said:

But dealers have a dedicated port in the engine bay for their connection, which is set up to be for more accurate than obd2.

This is a new one on me - is it factually correct? 

Is there really a trend for car makers to have a standard OBD-based diagnostic port and also a separate connection (presumably using a proprietary, non-standardised protocol) elsewhere?

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicAdvice/comments/el8rrm/what_is_the_diagnosis_port_in_the_engine_bay_of/

tedted

thats a kia not an eobd  spec

born_again

tedted said:

thats a kia not an eobd  spec

Exactly my point. Cars often have a manufacture only diagnostic port as well as OBD2 port.🤷‍♀️

fwor

born_again said:

fwor said:

born_again said:

But dealers have a dedicated port in the engine bay for their connection, which is set up to be for more accurate than obd2.

This is a new one on me - is it factually correct? 

Is there really a trend for car makers to have a standard OBD-based diagnostic port and also a separate connection (presumably using a proprietary, non-standardised protocol) elsewhere?

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicAdvice/comments/el8rrm/what_is_the_diagnosis_port_in_the_engine_bay_of/

Ah right - a 15 year old Kia Sedona has a Kia-specific socket in the engine compartment, and the person commenting on it in that Reddit post (from 5 years ago) says that more recent vehicles have changed to use OBD2 instead. So the answer is no - there is no trend towards adding extra diagnostic ports.

spencer999

I used £3000 finance through the dealer on the car.  I dug out the docs and it clearly says the finance company owns the car and it's my duty to maintain it.  They've been in touch to acknowledge my issue which they keep referring to as a "complaint", although I don't think that's quite the right word, (yet) as it's just something that needs fixing.

They haven't said "sorry we can't help you" so they must be doing something.... just waiting to find out what they say next.

born_again

spencer999 said:

I used £3000 finance through the dealer on the car.  I dug out the docs and it clearly says the finance company owns the car and it's my duty to maintain it.  They've been in touch to acknowledge my issue which they keep referring to as a "complaint", although I don't think that's quite the right word, (yet) as it's just something that needs fixing.

They haven't said "sorry we can't help you" so they must be doing something.... just waiting to find out what they say next.

TBH, finance co are not there to fix the car. They are looking at this as S75 (which in effect is a complaint) & being jointly liable for the debt.
Yes, they can put pressure on the retailer, but that does not mean retailer will do anything.