PCM rejected my PCN appeals

h2g2

Grizebeck said:

h2g2 said:

From the description, you may be in the same place as me. In that case, I already have started action against PCM & the managing agents. I'll send you a private message to find out without outing our actual locations to the world at large.

How is that going

Probably better to discuss that in my thread on it. I've recently added another resident to the motion after she got a NtK and debt collectors letters from Trace who have also been spamming her phone apparently. I've advised her to block the debt collector texting her, and to either tell me if she gets a LBC.

I need to check up with JY to find out how far he's got. He's not the best at keeping in touch.

Coupon-mad

sunmoon789 said:

Context:
I'm renting, I had just moved in just under 2 weeks before the first PCN.
Have a fob for a residents parking with an allocated numbered space.
Parking is managed by PCM.
PCNs are from an IPC operator and windscreen PCNs.
My car is a lease, I am not the main driver on the lease. A family member is.
So far received 3 PCNs, they are for not displaying a permit (Didn't know about one)
My contract with my landlord does not mention a permit and the rental agency didn't mention one either.

To add I now have a permit - my landlord contacted them to order one and they told the landlord I needed to appeal.

Receives two PCNs on my window about 5 minutes apart labelled as two residential places (its two flats next to eachother that presumably share a car park?) whilst parked in my allocated spot which is a gated residents parking

 Received another windscreen PCN, this time just one residential location not two separate ones.

They accepted one appeal, which was for the wrong car park? They rejected the other two with this response by post:

Thank you for your recent correspondence regarding the above cited Parking Charge Notice (PCN).

Unfortunately, we are not able to process your appeal as you appear to be a third-party making representation on behalf of the driver. For the avoidance of doubt, the term 'driver' is used to mean the individual who parked the vehicle in the position in which the PCN was issued.

This conclusion may have been reached for a number of different reasons. For example:

You explicitly stated that you are appealing on behalf of the driver

• You have referred solely to "the driver" without clarity on whether this is yourself
• You have only referred to "we" and as such, it is unclear whether you, as the individual submitting the appeal, were the driver
• You have stated that you are the registered keeper and are not prepared to disclose who was driving, but the DVLA data we hold does not corroborate this
• It is otherwise unclear what your relationship to the vehicle is In order for us to process the appeal, you have a number of options:
• If you were the driver of the vehicle, please submit another appeal on www.paymypcn-uk.co.uk
• advising of such
  If you were not the driver of the vehicle, either: i.
  The driver will need to submit a new appeal; or,
  ii.
  The driver will need to provide signed authority for you to act on their behalf (please see reverse of this notice)

Please provide this information without undue delay and within 14 days of the date of this letter. If you are unable or unwilling to disclose the information requested, the charge will continue to progress through the normal routes of recovery. This may include the acquisition of DVLA data.

Alternatively, you may settle the charge at £60.00 within the next 14 days.

How do I proceed? Any help appreciated

Threads need merging if these are about the same PCNs:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6542132/pcm-parking-fine-for-parking-in-my-allocated-spot/p1

I recognised the situation and knew I'd already advised you what to do and advised you to read the 4th post of the NEWBIES thread:

Coupon-mad said:

So he either names you (and postal address) as driver or he appeals.  He won't win but nobody pays these.

Decide now which one of you wants the fun of defending a worthless Gladstones Court claim. If that's not going to be him, he names you now and transfers liability.  Easy.

Neither of you even THINK about paying.

(No you don't have a fine.

No you won't risk a CCJ).

You need to read around the forum!

You have searched the forum for PCM surely? Watchdog...etc.  see who you are dealing with. Learn from other threads.

davidewatson

I think it is time concerted action was taken to stop these parking cowboys. They depend upon aggravation and stress caused to people receiving notices (rightly or wrongly) to pay up. 

Have a nice carpark limited are a shocking example around my town. MSE should back a campaign against them.

Coupon-mad

davidewatson said:

I think it is time concerted action was taken to stop these parking cowboys. They depend upon aggravation and stress caused to people receiving notices (rightly or wrongly) to pay up. 

Have a nice carpark limited are a shocking example around my town. MSE should back a campaign against them.

MSE will surely back the Government's planned statutory regime (if they get it right).