Enforcement process commenced

JohnBravo

sheramber said:

The council say they sent you letters.

You say you didn't receive any.  

He says/she says

Nobody here can change the system, whether they agrre wioth or not.

If you think it should be changed then contact your local councillor and suggest it to him/her.

It's not just that because the council is a system I am a living person.
By saying that you stipulate it is just words against words that either the council is inept or I am inept and a nutcase.
The council thinks their system works perfectly and I think I am sane, have no split personality so the other personality didn't hide the letters under the bed or in a pot in the garden.

Do you think I would waste your time here if I wasn't 100% sure the letters didn't cross the threshold of my letter plate?

JohnBravo

eskbanker said:

JohnBravo said:

Apologies I sound like an !!!!!!

It doesn't seem likely that there'll be a huge queue of posters waiting to disagree with that!

However, while it's your prerogative to vent endlessly about communication processes, are you making any progress on the important issue of settling your outstanding bill and getting the council to call off the debt collectors?

JohnBravo said:

It's the XXI century

So just a mere couple of millennia since that style of numbering was prevalent?

People still buy wrist watches with Roman numerals.

The councilor got involved and asked council's revenue department to respond what they did but at this stage it's just words against words so it is not going anywhere.
I have suggested in my response email to the revenue department (sent yesterday @ noon) that I can pay the outstanding debt no problem but this does not include the summons costs and the enforcement agents.
I reckon if they want to they could call off the enforcement agency but I don't think they will cover for the hearing which already happened. No response so far and I don't think there will be a response but I could be wrong while the clock at Bristow & Sutor is already ticking.

sheramber

JohnBravo said:

sheramber said:

The council say they sent you letters.

You say you didn't receive any.  

He says/she says

Nobody here can change the system, whether they agrre wioth or not.

If you think it should be changed then contact your local councillor and suggest it to him/her.

It's not just that because the council is a system I am a living person.
By saying that you stipulate it is just words against words that either the council is inept or I am inept and a nutcase.
The council thinks their system works perfectly and I think I am sane, have no split personality so the other personality didn't hide the letters under the bed or in a pot in the garden.

Do you think I would waste your time here if I wasn't 100% sure the letters didn't cross the threshold of my letter plate?

Doesn’t matter what I think. It is the council you need to convince. 

littlemissbossy

Life really is to short to be hanging on to this, just pay what you owe, set up a DD and forget about it 

Bookworm105

JohnBravo said:

eskbanker said:

JohnBravo said:

Apologies I sound like an !!!!!!

It doesn't seem likely that there'll be a huge queue of posters waiting to disagree with that!

However, while it's your prerogative to vent endlessly about communication processes, are you making any progress on the important issue of settling your outstanding bill and getting the council to call off the debt collectors?

JohnBravo said:

It's the XXI century

So just a mere couple of millennia since that style of numbering was prevalent?

People still buy wrist watches with Roman numerals.

The councilor got involved and asked council's revenue department to respond what they did but at this stage it's just words against words so it is not going anywhere.
I have suggested in my response email to the revenue department (sent yesterday @ noon) that I can pay the outstanding debt no problem but this does not include the summons costs and the enforcement agents.
I reckon if they want to they could call off the enforcement agency but I don't think they will cover for the hearing which already happened. No response so far and I don't think there will be a response but I could be wrong while the clock at Bristow & Sutor is already ticking.

you can wail on here as much as your energy allows but there are 2 incontrovertible facts
1. you missed a payment
2. the council has been through "court" to enforce collection

taxpayers do not appreciate councils writing off the court costs when it has reached that stage when the majority of taxpayers do not miss a payment to start with and are "unimpressed" with having to subsidise those who cost the council court fees.
Consequently councils tend to dig in regarding waiving legal fees. 

Yes you can appeal to the council (hopefully with less derision than you show on here) over those additional fees.
They may let you off the fees, they may not. There is nothing you can do once they decide (though doubtless you'll carry on wailing) 

There is no magic get out clause over missing letters

and BTW you cannot compare an "ecosystem" based on taxation legislation with one based on common law contracts. The process to be followed regarding council tax non payment is set out in statutory legislation, not contract law.

Council Tax (Administration and Enforcement) Regulations 1992 part VI para 34 (6&7)

(6) The court shall make the order if it is satisfied that the sum has become payable by the defendant and has not been paid.
(7) An order made pursuant to paragraph (6) shall be made in respect of an amount equal to the aggregate of—
(a) the sum payable, and
(b) a sum of an amount equal to the costs reasonably incurred by the applicant in obtaining the order [F13(which costs, including those of instituting the application under paragraph (2), are not to exceed the prescribed amount of £70)