Gas or electric company recommendations with no smart meter

Tumtitums

Hello can anyone recommend an energy (gas and electric) company that wont be pestering me for a smart meter every two weeks. I would obviously want to move onto a very good tariff as well.

I've already told my company e.on that i don't want one but they just don't seem to want to take no for an answer. I'm on their variable rate but all their fixed rate tariffs which seem better seem to require that you install a smart meter

Brie

If you want the best tariffs you'll need to be on a smart meter and frankly for the vast majority of people it makes life much easier.  No readings to submit is great!!

In the end you won't have a choice as it's their equipment and if they think it needs to be changed all you can do is find a convenient time to have the installation.  

BarelySentientAI

Tumtitums said:

Hello can anyone recommend an energy (gas and electric) company that wont be pestering me for a smart meter every two weeks. I would obviously want to move onto a very good tariff as well.

I've already told my company e.on that i don't want one but they just don't seem to want to take no for an answer. I'm on their variable rate but all their fixed rate tariffs which seem better seem to require that you install a smart meter

There are no suppliers like that.

They are all required to fit smart meters.  The law entitles them to.

And, as you have noticed, the good tariffs need them too.

Tumtitums

Brie said:

If you want the best tariffs you'll need to be on a smart meter and frankly for the vast majority of people it makes life much easier.  No readings to submit is great!!

In the end you won't have a choice as it's their equipment and if they think it needs to be changed all you can do is find a convenient time to have the installation.  

I'm quite happy with the way my life is thank you and also i didn't know the meters belonged to e.on . the meters were in before i moved into the house and the previous occupants were with a different company .

It amazes me how lazy society has become in so many ways  now it seems that people  cant spare less than  2minutes to note down a number on a meter once a month. God help us i

Hoenir

Tumtitums said:

It amazes me how lazy society has become in so many ways  now it seems that people  cant spare less than  2minutes to note down a number on a meter once a month. God help us i

There's still the expense of having a meter reading verified. That's the service that the additional cost covers. Totally your choice. Don't expect others to pay for though. 

On a totally different level there's the data that the smart meters provide regarding usage. What power generation is required when and where.  Electricity and gas don't simply arrive at a flick of a switch. 

BarelySentientAI

Tumtitums said:

Brie said:

If you want the best tariffs you'll need to be on a smart meter and frankly for the vast majority of people it makes life much easier.  No readings to submit is great!!

In the end you won't have a choice as it's their equipment and if they think it needs to be changed all you can do is find a convenient time to have the installation.  

I'm quite happy with the way my life is thank you and also i didn't know the meters belonged to e.on . the meters were in before i moved into the house and the previous occupants were with a different company .

It amazes me how lazy society has become in so many ways  now it seems that people  cant spare less than  2minutes to note down a number on a meter once a month. God help us i

Out of interest, who did they think they belonged to?  It's a bit confusing, because they might have another company's name on, but it's true that the meter belongs to whichever supplier you are paying your bill to.

You can still read the meter yourself if you want to, nobody will stop you.  Seems an unnecessary way to demonstrate your industriousness though.

BlueonBlue

I dont have a smart meter at pres so am on EDF,s Varible tariff but have been looking at Octopus .
Perhaps give Octopus a call the number comes up via google and ask if switching requires a smart meter  ?....you could say yes you may want one in the future but certainly not right now so is switching possible ?

They want you as a customer as they want market share ie your money so who knows ?
Forum advice can often be opinionated, completely wrong or negative so I would phone them to confirm myself .

It doesnt bother me much if EDF text/phone or email me regarding a new meter or a smart meter .
If you compare it to unregulated private parking scammers ,the linked scamalicitors and debt collector monkeys sending  threatograms for up to 6 years...... then the energy companys are as tame as a family cat .

If you do switch I think you can get a £50 incentive too if you search the net

Spoonie_Turtle

Tumtitums said:

Hello can anyone recommend an energy (gas and electric) company that wont be pestering me for a smart meter every two weeks. I would obviously want to move onto a very good tariff as well.

I've already told my company e.on that i don't want one but they just don't seem to want to take no for an answer. I'm on their variable rate but all their fixed rate tariffs which seem better seem to require that you install a smart meter

The only very good tariffs available are smart time-of-use tariffs.  Everything else is either the standard variable, or fixed tariffs which may be somewhat better than the current SVT but suppliers can attach whatever conditions they like - and considering their licenses to supply gas and electricity require them to take "all reasonable steps" to install smart meters, you'll be hard pressed to find one that doesn't require you to at least agree to allow one to be fitted.  [Whether they would actually get round to it before your current electricity meter needs replacing or not is another matter.]

There must be somewhere hidden in your account settings that you can turn off being contacted about smart meters - but only for being offered one.  When your electricity meter nears the end of its certification period they have to contact you to change it, it's a legal obligation to make sure the meter on their supply for your property is within its certification period.

Hoenir

BlueonBlue said:

It doesnt bother me much if EDF text/phone or email me regarding a new meter or a smart meter .
If you compare it to unregulated private parking scammers ,scamalicitors and debt collector monkeys sending  threatograms for up to 6 years then the energy companys are tame as a family cat .

Like a forgotten boomerang. Eventually things come back and hit you on the head when you least want them to. 

BarelySentientAI

Hoenir said:

BlueonBlue said:

It doesnt bother me much if EDF text/phone or email me regarding a new meter or a smart meter .
If you compare it to unregulated private parking scammers ,scamalicitors and debt collector monkeys sending  threatograms for up to 6 years then the energy companys are tame as a family cat .

Like a forgotten boomerang. Eventually things come back and hit you on the head when you least want them to. 

It certainly will if EdF decide to apply the strict terms of the electricity act and disconnect the supply.

Reed_Richards

I was on the Next Pledge tariff with Eon Next before I got a smart meter.  I don't think I had to agree to getting a smart meter installed to be on that tariff, I just wanted one so I could get an EV.  I still record my meter readings once a month, although I no longer need to supply them to Eon Next.   But with the smart meter I can now also download my usage data for every half hour.

Tumtitums said:

It amazes me how lazy society has become in so many ways  now it seems that people  cant spare less than  2minutes to note down a number on a meter once a month. God help us i

It used to be even worse.  Time was, I had to get up off the couch, open the door, let a meter reader in and show them where the meter was.  3 minutes maybe, and exhausting!