Does the 2 child cap apply to men with new partners

Dexsio

 not at the same obviously 

Emmia

Dexsio said:

 not at the same obviously 

Not obviously... Some people do commit bigamy, some religions, and some countries allow a man to have more than one wife...

In any case you don't need to be married to have children, so a man could have numerous offspring by many different women, but he'd only be able to claim child benefit for two children.  The other children (assuming multiple mothers) would have the child benefit claimed by the mother 

poppy12345

Emmia said:

Dexsio said:

 not at the same obviously 

Not obviously... Some people do commit bigamy, some religions, and some countries allow a man to have more than one wife...

Here in the UK it's illegal. If they were living in other countries there would be no entitlement to UK benefits. 

Emmia said:

Dexsio said:

 not at the same obviously 

In any case you don't need to be married to have children, so a man could have numerous offspring by many different women, but he'd only be able to claim child benefit for two children.  The other children (assuming multiple mothers) would have the child benefit claimed by the mother 

Indeed you don't but you did mention "being married." Some children live with the father so the same would apply if the mother had more children and wasn't living with a partner that already claims for 2 of their children. 

This forum is about benefits entitlement, not about benefits policy. Please see the sticky thread at the top of the forum. 

Emmia

poppy12345 said:

Emmia said:

Dexsio said:

 not at the same obviously 

Not obviously... Some people do commit bigamy, some religions, and some countries allow a man to have more than one wife...

Here in the UK it's illegal. If they were living in other countries there would be no entitlement to UK benefits. 

Emmia said:

Dexsio said:

 not at the same obviously 

In any case you don't need to be married to have children, so a man could have numerous offspring by many different women, but he'd only be able to claim child benefit for two children.  The other children (assuming multiple mothers) would have the child benefit claimed by the mother 

Indeed you don't but you did mention "being married." Some children live with the father so the same would apply if the mother had more children and wasn't living with a partner that already claims for 2 of their children. 

This forum is about benefits entitlement, not about benefits policy. Please see the sticky thread at the top of the forum. 

In response to a question about bigamy, which only happens if people are married (to multiple people).

Spoonie_Turtle

Dexsio said:

What happens if a man has more than one wife ?  For example if he has 4 wife's each having 2 children for him... will benefits be paid for all 8 of his children? 

Does your hypothetical man have his family spread across different households?  Because of not then no.

Even if all 8 or 10 or however many of his hypothetical children could be claimed for (i.e. all the hypothetical women live in separate hypothetical households and otherwise hypothetically meet the rest of the criteria) he wouldn't get money for more than two children at most, unless his household has three or more children born before April 2017. 
The women would need to claim for their respective children - and single claims for something like UC, he can only live in one place - because he could only claim for one household.

Edit: I didn't notice the 'not at the same time' comment.  In which case I don't see how the man is all that relevant; the single mothers in your example have to raise their children and would be well advised to claim any benefits they're entitled to, to give the children the best lives possible in their circumstances.

Muttleythefrog

Dexsio said:

 not at the same obviously 

Sorry I just took what you said literally and was confused as to why you were bringing marriage into the issue since relationships don't need to be formalised like that to be considered marital type for benefit purposes. And as above obviously having children outside of wedlock is very common.

The relevant benefit policy is covered above by others.

Twixty3

Dexsio said:

Universal credit or tax credit's then... if for example a man has more children with another woman does he get to claim benefits for his third and forth child with his new partner? 

If your children went to live with Dad and his new partner plus their 2 kids  they would likely meet the 2 child limit depending on their ages. as they would have 4 children living with them.

If you had two more kids whether with a partner or not (becoming a 4 child family) the two child limit would apply depending on their ages.

If your two kids went to live with Dad and you went on to have two more children you too would not be hit by the two child limit unless you went on to have have a third child whilst the first two remain living with Dad.

He therefore is not getting favourable treatment as it equally applies to you should your situation change in the way outlined above.

sheramber

Child Benefit is paid for the  suport of the child.

Child benefit is normally paid to the person that the child lives with .

Depnding on thiei ages, the 2 child limit will apply to dad if children live with him.

If none live with him then  he won't be eligible for child benefit so no need to be concerned about the 2 child limit.

So yes, he could father several children  who could be eligible for CB payment if the do not live him, 

The person they live with could be subject to the two child limit , depending on the ages.