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Employer Underpaid Contributions
Lelbel76
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It has recently come to light that my employer has been underpaying their pension contribution for almost 2 years.
My pension scheme states that after 10 years service, the employer's contribution increases from 5% to 7.5%. I reached 10 years service in Sept '22.
I have emailed the HR department, who acknowledged the error and have since contributed a lump sum equivalent to the underpaid amount.
My question is, should there be some kind of compensation for the missed investment time? I'm thinking some kind of compound interest?
Is it something I need to calculate and present to them to request the difference or should the onus be on them to sort this?
TIA
My pension scheme states that after 10 years service, the employer's contribution increases from 5% to 7.5%. I reached 10 years service in Sept '22.
I have emailed the HR department, who acknowledged the error and have since contributed a lump sum equivalent to the underpaid amount.
My question is, should there be some kind of compensation for the missed investment time? I'm thinking some kind of compound interest?
Is it something I need to calculate and present to them to request the difference or should the onus be on them to sort this?
TIA
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Have you asked the question of HR in broad terms?0
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if you are up for some spreadsheeting, you could calculate what the missing growth would be worth by looking at your statement and modelling the extra going in using the same dates as you actual contribution and looking up the prices for the fund(s) onlineI’m a Senior Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Pensions, Annuities & Retirement Planning, Loans
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In a word, yes.
They should put you back in the same position as if their error had not occurred.
Practically, they need to buy you any missing units in your fund holding(s).1 -
I did take each monthly missing contribution amount and used a compound interest rate over the number of months it had been 'missing' but wasn't sure if that was the right way to go about it.MallyGirl said:if you are up for some spreadsheeting, you could calculate what the missing growth would be worth by looking at your statement and modelling the extra going in using the same dates as you actual contribution and0 -
The easier you make it for them to do the right thing the easier it will be to get them to do it!Lelbel76 said:It has recently come to light that my employer has been underpaying their pension contribution for almost 2 years.
My pension scheme states that after 10 years service, the employer's contribution increases from 5% to 7.5%. I reached 10 years service in Sept '22.
I have emailed the HR department, who acknowledged the error and have since contributed a lump sum equivalent to the underpaid amount.
My question is, should there be some kind of compensation for the missed investment time? I'm thinking some kind of compound interest?
Is it something I need to calculate and present to them to request the difference or should the onus be on them to sort this?
TIA
I'd email HR again and ask them how [not if] they are going to arrange for the necessary adjustment to be made to ensure you are put in the position you would have been in had the error not occurred; and suggest that they should approach the pension provider to do the necessary calculation, given that it is going to be quite complicated.
Googling on your question might have been both quicker and easier, if you're only after simple facts rather than opinions!0 -
if you want to get some redress from them it will be easier if you provide solid figures. Your pension is likely invested so the concept of interest doesn't exist.Lelbel76 said:
I did take each monthly missing contribution amount and used a compound interest rate over the number of months it had been 'missing' but wasn't sure if that was the right way to go about it.MallyGirl said:if you are up for some spreadsheeting, you could calculate what the missing growth would be worth by looking at your statement and modelling the extra going in using the same dates as you actual contribution and
As stated above - you need to look at how many investment units the missing extra contribution would have bought each time and add them up. Compare that with how many units the lump sum bought and ask for the value of what is needed to make up the differenceI’m a Senior Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Pensions, Annuities & Retirement Planning, Loans
& Credit Cards boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com.
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Although they'd want to keep quite if that showed a loss over the 2 yearsMallyGirl said:if you are up for some spreadsheeting, you could calculate what the missing growth would be worth by looking at your statement and modelling the extra going in using the same dates as you actual contribution and looking up the prices for the fund(s) online2 -
absolutely! That is why the calculations have to be accurate.I’m a Senior Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Pensions, Annuities & Retirement Planning, Loans
& Credit Cards boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com.
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Thanks everyone!0
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