Question about 10 year rule.

stoneman

Ok, I’m not dumb but I’m a bit confused about the 10 year rule for passport when entering the EU. I’m only asking because this past week we were boarding a Ryanair flight and the checkin girl mentioned that my wife had better get hers sorted because although it was issued in April 2015 it expires in August 25.

So, we are traveling to Spain on the 4th of September and returning home 22nd of September. 

Her passport was issued on 16th April 2015  and expires 16th August 2025. I believe we have to ignore the extension and class it as expiry 16th April 2025? Is it 6 months or 3 months that need to have left on it on entry to Spain?

Caz3121

Expiry date has not changed. (It is still August) Spain requires 3 months after departure so if you leave 22nd September 2024 you need an expiry date after 22nd December 2024

p00hsticks

From the horses (governments) mouth
Entry requirements - Spain travel advice - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

Voyager2002

p00hsticks said:

From the horses (governments) mouth
Entry requirements - Spain travel advice - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

The link that has been kindly provided says:

Spain follows Schengen area rules. Your passport must: 

• have a ‘date of issue’ less than 10 years before the date you arrive – if you renewed your passport before 1 October 2018, it may have a date of issue that is more than 10 years ago
• have an ‘expiry date’ at least 3 months after the day you plan to leave the Schengen area

DullGreyGuy

p00hsticks said:

From the horses (governments) mouth
Entry requirements - Spain travel advice - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

A source I'd trust but not actually from the horses mouth as its Spain/EU which sets its entry criteria not the UK government. 

eskbanker

DullGreyGuy said:

p00hsticks said:

From the horses (governments) mouth
Entry requirements - Spain travel advice - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

A source I'd trust but not actually from the horses mouth as its Spain/EU which sets its entry criteria not the UK government. 

To be fair, as well as summarising the rules, the page does prominently link to the definitive EU page at https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/non-eu-nationals/index_en.htm, as shown in the post before yours.

stoneman

Caz3121 said:

Expiry date has not changed. (It is still August) Spain requires 3 months after departure so if you leave 22nd September 2024 you need an expiry date after 22nd December 2024

So her information was wrong? I heard a story like this last week in the papers where a family of 4, travelling to Spain with Ryanair, the father couldn’t travel because they said the extension was irrelevant, and he had to treat it as expired 10years from issue. He flew out the next day with Jet 2 who said they were happy to accept them.

TELLIT01

I think the person on check in was simply highlighting the fact that there isn't long left on the passport for travel to EU.

sheramber

stoneman said:

Ok, I’m not dumb but I’m a bit confused about the 10 year rule for passport when entering the EU. I’m only asking because this past week we were boarding a Ryanair flight and the checkin girl mentioned that my wife had better get hers sorted because although it was issued in April 2015 it expires in August 25.

So, we are traveling to Spain on the 4th of September and returning home 22nd of September. 

Her passport was issued on 16th April 2015  and expires 16th August 2025. I believe we have to ignore the extension and class it as expiry 16th April 2025? Is it 6 months or 3 months that need to have left on it on entry to Spain?

Issued April 2015 , valid for  an entry date  before April 25.

For exit , the August 25 expiry date applies.

eskbanker

stoneman said:
I heard a story like this last week in the papers where a family of 4, travelling to Spain with Ryanair, the father couldn’t travel because they said the extension was irrelevant, and he had to treat it as expired 10years from issue. He flew out the next day with Jet 2 who said they were happy to accept them.

That story, as republished a few days ago from a popular Instagrammer, omits the exact dates when alleging that Ryanair asserted that the passport had been issued over ten years previously while Jet2 allowed the passenger to travel, so both of these can't be true....

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/mums-warning-families-going-holiday-103711558.html

However, the rules remain as shared earlier on this thread, i.e. there are two completely separate date checks, one relating to (ten years from) issue date and the other to expiry date.

stoneman

sheramber said:

stoneman said:

Ok, I’m not dumb but I’m a bit confused about the 10 year rule for passport when entering the EU. I’m only asking because this past week we were boarding a Ryanair flight and the checkin girl mentioned that my wife had better get hers sorted because although it was issued in April 2015 it expires in August 25.

So, we are traveling to Spain on the 4th of September and returning home 22nd of September. 

Her passport was issued on 16th April 2015  and expires 16th August 2025. I believe we have to ignore the extension and class it as expiry 16th April 2025? Is it 6 months or 3 months that need to have left on it on entry to Spain?

Issued April 2015 , valid for  an entry date  before April 25.

For exit , the August 25 expiry date applies.

Thanks, that’s the first clear explanation I have seen. (Maybe I am dumb)