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Curtilage Listing

PRDMKT
PRDMKT Posts: 82 Forumite
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We are nearing exchange on a barn conversion, however, speaking to a family friend who owns a listed building they have expressed concern as the barn we are looking at used to form part of the land with a listed farmhouse (listed in 1951) whilst not a "principle" listed building it used to be situated within the curtilage pre-conversion & pre-1948 therefore it could be classified as a "curtilage" listed building and therefore subject to all listed building restrictions. 

Doing some research into this it appears that curtilage listed buildings often go unnoticed as they do not appear on the heritage website, as they're not the principle listed building and they also don't appear on local searches.
Does anyone have experience or knowledge in this? 

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  • propertyrental
    propertyrental Posts: 3,391 Forumite
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    If the barn has (recently?) been converted, I'd expect to see reference to any listed status on the planning application and/or approval.
  • PRDMKT
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    propertyrental said:
    If the barn has (recently?) been converted, I'd expect to see reference to any listed status on the planning application and/or approval.
    Converted 1980's the documentation for the planning appears really vague and limited, although our solicitor has not had any issues with this so it can't be too concerning.
  • FreeBear
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    When was the farmhouse listed ?
    If the conversion was done prior to the listing, you should be OK.
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  • PRDMKT
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    FreeBear said:
    When was the farmhouse listed ?
    If the conversion was done prior to the listing, you should be OK.
    Listed 1951, Converted 1980
  • FreeBear
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    PRDMKT said:
    FreeBear said:
    When was the farmhouse listed ?
    If the conversion was done prior to the listing, you should be OK.
    Listed 1951, Converted 1980
    If any enforcement was going to be taken over listed building breaches, it would have happened by now - As there is no time limit (unlike planning & building regs), there is a very remote chance that enforcement could still happen.
    the main question to ask of your solicitor - Is the barn subject to listed status ?

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  • PRDMKT
    PRDMKT Posts: 82 Forumite
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    FreeBear said:
    PRDMKT said:
    FreeBear said:
    When was the farmhouse listed ?
    If the conversion was done prior to the listing, you should be OK.
    Listed 1951, Converted 1980
    If any enforcement was going to be taken over listed building breaches, it would have happened by now - As there is no time limit (unlike planning & building regs), there is a very remote chance that enforcement could still happen.
    the main question to ask of your solicitor - Is the barn subject to listed status ?

    The problem is the current vendor has let the property get into a hell of state, needs ample work to bring up to standard + my plans would be to modernise substantially. If it's listed I can only assume it will be a nightmare.

    I will have to put it to my solicitor.

    I am unfortunately a nervous buyer and wouldn't sleep well at night knowing I could be subject to enforcement
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