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Fitting concrete fence post to garage wall

RomfordNavy
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Is it likely that the footings under a brick built garage are flush with the wall or are they likely to protrude out further than the wall?
I would like to fit a concrete fence post against the garage wall but until I remove the old wooden fence I don't know if I will be able to dig down for a concrete post or whether the footings will be in the way.
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  • Browntoa
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    I suspect the footings will be wider than the wall they support 
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  • Bookworm105
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    as it is a brick wall then 100% the footings will be wider than the wall

    a) sit the concrete post on top of the footings and secure it to the brickwork (carefully drill through centre of post to avoid the steel rods it is made with);
    or
    b) chop a slot in the footings, put post in, back fill with concrete 
  • BikingBud
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    Try something like these?

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  • FreeBear
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    as it is a brick wall then 100% the footings will be wider than the wall

    a) sit the concrete post on top of the footings and secure it to the brickwork (carefully drill through centre of post to avoid the steel rods it is made with);
    or
    b) chop a slot in the footings, put post in, back fill with concrete 
    The foundation (footings) will likely be 100-150mm wider than the wall, and 150-200mm thick (maybe more) - That is a lot of concrete to chop out. Depending on how well the garage is, the foundation may be 500mm or more below the surface of the ground. For a low fence, you don't have to bury the posts too deep.
    Drilling through the post and in to the wall (using either resin fixings or wall bolts) is going to be the quickest & easiest way of fixing the post.

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  • Mr.Generous
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    Or site the post a foot awayfrom the garage and use an infil fence panel. Only need a couple of battens fixing to the garage for that.
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  • stuart45
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    I've worked in the footings on quite a few houses where the brickwork was right on the edge of the concrete.
  • 35har1old
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    FreeBear said:
    as it is a brick wall then 100% the footings will be wider than the wall

    a) sit the concrete post on top of the footings and secure it to the brickwork (carefully drill through centre of post to avoid the steel rods it is made with);
    or
    b) chop a slot in the footings, put post in, back fill with concrete 
    The foundation (footings) will likely be 100-150mm wider than the wall, and 150-200mm thick (maybe more) - That is a lot of concrete to chop out. Depending on how well the garage is, the foundation may be 500mm or more below the surface of the ground. For a low fence, you don't have to bury the posts too deep.
    Drilling through the post and in to the wall (using either resin fixings or wall bolts) is going to be the quickest & easiest way of fixing the post.

    Foundation may be deeper than what you need for the post depth
  • ThisIsWeird
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    Romford, is there a wooden fence post there at the mo? If so, how is that fixed?
  • Section62
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    stuart45 said:
    I've worked in the footings on quite a few houses where the brickwork was right on the edge of the concrete.
    I was going to say with their 100% comment Bookworm105 has obviously never seen any of my dad's DIY building efforts.  And I doubt his corbelled footings are unique.
  • Bookworm105
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    edited 15 July 2024 at 11:44AM
    Section62 said:
    stuart45 said:
    I've worked in the footings on quite a few houses where the brickwork was right on the edge of the concrete.
    I was going to say with their 100% comment Bookworm105 has obviously never seen any of my dad's DIY building efforts.  And I doubt his corbelled footings are unique.
    then let us hope neither has the council's Building Regs people 
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