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KADOE - a simplified version of the contract between car park operators and DVLA

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  • ParkingMad
    ParkingMad Posts: 417 Forumite
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    edited 24 June at 4:50PM
    Umkomaas said:
    Does anyone know what the general criteria are for a 'Red' rating, and what the consequences are?  Over the years we've seen repeat 'offenders', some of them our favourite 'big beasts', but seemingly no follow on information. 

    These are some of GIAA’s general criteria for the ratings-


  • Umkomaas
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    edited 24 June at 5:30PM
    Thanks @ParkingMad. There needs to be major weaknesses for a 'Red' assessment. And there are so many operators falling below an acceptable threshold.  The distribution of 'Reds' doesn't seem to be getting any better.  Makes you wonder what the DVLA are doing about this, or are they going through the motions of box ticking 'Annual Assessments Carried Out'. ☑️
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • Coupon-mad
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    The MHCLG have been shown this evidence - thanks @ParkingMad

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  • LoneStarState
    LoneStarState Posts: 154 Forumite
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    edited 25 June at 1:16PM
    Umkomaas said:
    Does anyone know what the general criteria are for a 'Red' rating, and what the consequences are?  Over the years we've seen repeat 'offenders', some of them our favourite 'big beasts', but seemingly no follow on information. 
    You'd have to do a DVLA FOI re each and every one to expose the reasons.

    Sometimes it's something major like telling a recipient they are liable under POFA when they can't be. Sometimes it's that some records are incomplete (i.e. unclear what action was taken).
    You can request the in depth audit results from the GIAA that is provided to the DVLA.  Specifically, the forms you would want to look at and request are the GIAA's "External Data Users Programme Audit Findings". 

    Requesting that quoted phrase should get what you want. It's the audit report sent to the DVLA's Data Sharing Strategy and Compliance Team and will include the RAG rating along with a summary of why that score was reached (eg premature KADOE request post NTD would lead to a Red and what the operator is going to do to address the issue). 

    It will also include the auditor questionnaire based on responses from the PPC about certain conduct regarding data (will be heavily redacted) as well as a large pro forma spreadsheet that contains a (presumably random and therefore representative) sample of tickets issued by the PPC documenting the following:

    Vehicle registration number (redacted)
    Date of Event (redacted)
    Date of Enquiry (redacted)
    Notice Date (redacted)
    Enquiry Reference No 
    Reason code used (if applicable)
    What was the reason for the enquiry?
    Was the correct reason code used?
    Was a ticket attached to vehicle or was ANPR/CCTV used to issue a postal parking charge notice?
    Has the PCN/NTK been checked?
    Was POFA used on the notices?
    Has the signage been checked?
    Have the photographs or images been checked?
    Was the correct vehicle enquired upon?
    Please note any comments or issues relating to this enquiry

    If the GIAA refuse to publish this on first request, push for an internal review citing that it is important to know more detail on RAG ratings given the GIAA being the only real independent organisation publishing such info for the benefit of the motoring public who are subject to such requests and that redaction is an easy tool for protecting personal info in the documents.  You can refer to FOI152 where they had provided this information to help bolster your case against an initial refusal to provide.


  • ParkingMad
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    FOI148 also has details of VCS audits between 2014 and 2024.

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/audit_results_for_vehicle_contro
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