Bus Lane fine - Moor Street Birmingham

Mildly_Miffed

BlueonBlue said:

Win or lose you need to learn how to fight these anyway so the point is fight it as it very likely wont be the last one .

The easy solution is to look out of the windscreen, and not drive in bus lanes or through bus gates during their hours of operation.

Then this fine really WILL be your "last one".

The markings really are not subtle. Anybody who thinks this is impossible to avoid should probably not hold a licence.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/ACFQqivBS28fF8nb6

BlueonBlue

Those bus gates are not in london where its far more busy/populated its obviously a revenue scheme.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/black-country/notorious-birmingham-bus-gate-snares-25884013

As stated the op needs to engage with the site linked rather than take on negativity.

cw8825

BlueonBlue said:

Those bus gates are not in london where its far more busy/populated its obviously a revenue scheme.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/black-country/notorious-birmingham-bus-gate-snares-25884013

As stated the op needs to engage with the site linked rather than take on negativity.

What defence are you suggesting the op uses?
they admit the driver drove through
ita fairl black and white case in my opinion but would be welcome to hear some reasonable arguments not just fight for the sake of it

BlueonBlue

https://www.ftla.uk/

Negativity from random forums is not the answer the site noted earlier  above is the correct answer ...win or lose .

For those with private parking invoices the Sub forum on MSE is the place to engage . 

user1977

BlueonBlue said:

it's obviously a revenue scheme.

I thought it was more obviously a scheme to give buses priority. Are you saying they wouldn't have it at all if drivers didn't breach it?

Nasqueron

BlueonBlue said:

Those bus gates are not in london where its far more busy/populated its obviously a revenue scheme.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/black-country/notorious-birmingham-bus-gate-snares-25884013

As stated the op needs to engage with the site linked rather than take on negativity.

A revenue scheme can only work if there is a way to charge and confirm income - if people don't drive in bus lanes or speed or go through red lights there is no revenue. 

Frozen_up_north

Satnavs are pretty much obsolete now that Waze is available as a free app. While it won't stop anyone driving in bus lanes, or being caught speeding in a variable speed section of motorway, it does help avoid heavy traffic and "right turns". I recently had close to a 100 mile round trip each day to hospital appointments and Waze picked a different route most days and I didn't sit in queues of traffic once.

Waze also integrates with your car display screen, has warnings posted by other users that appear within a few seconds (pot holes, road works, speed camera vans, etc.). It is updated for speed limit errors by user input within a few days too, something that takes TomTom months.

Waze is from Google and has up to date mapping automatically displayed.

Okell

Gerrard00004 said:

Thank you for your responses and advice. Unfortunately, it did confirm what I suspected and that was to bite the bullet and pay.

On another note, if English is not the drivers mother tongue, they may not understand the wording on the road. I get that this is covered by the signage, was just curious on how this matter would be viewed.

Did you never go to Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) (ftla.uk) as you were originally told to do?

A lot of these civil moving traffic offences are relatively easy to defeat as a lot of local authorities don't understand the law properly.  FTLA have an excellent record in this regard.

In future, whenever you get a local authority ticket for a parking or moving traffic offence that's where you need to go.