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Received Claim Form but not a PCN

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  • Gr1pr
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    edited 17 June 2024 at 3:22PM
    Don't over explain at this early stage, keep it concise and to the point 

    Only post the early paragraphs on here, the ones that you alter, not the rest of the template defence which remains unaltered.  When your final draft is approved, slot the rest under it and renumber accordingly 

    Over explaining can be done in your witness statement in several months time 
  • LDast
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    Throw the book at them for abuse of process for incorrect interest calculation and for applying the interest to not only the original PCN amount of £100 but also on their fake £70 "damages".

    The Claim should be struck out on the basis that it contravenes Schedule 4, Paragraph 4(5) of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA). PoFA clearly stipulates that a creditor may not make a claim against the keeper of a vehicle for more than the amount of the unpaid parking charges as they stood when the notice to the driver was issued. The original Parking Charge Notice (PCN) issued by the claimant was for £100. The claimant's current claim is for £170, which exceeds the amount of the unpaid parking charges as stated in the original notice. The Claimant’s attempt to claim an unlawful amount constitutes an abuse of process and should not be allowed to proceed. The Defendant respectfully request the allocating judge to dismiss the claim on the basis of the Claimant’s contravention of Schedule 4, Paragraph 4(5) of PoFA and thereby CPR 1.1, CPR 3.4(2)(a) and (b) and CPR 27.14 and to award costs to the Defendant for having to defend against this improper claim.

    As the claim should only be for the amount of £100 as stated on the original PCN, the interest calculated should only be on that amount. By also calculating interest on the added £70 "damages" which are, in themselves, an abuse of process, the claimant has not only acted unreasonably but also abused the courts process and breached the following CPRs:

    CPR Breaches and Abuse of Process:
    • CPR 1.1 - The Overriding Objective:
    • The claim is not being dealt with justly or proportionately. The excessive amount claimed puts the defendant at a disadvantage, increases unnecessary costs, and is disproportionate to the original charge.
    • CPR 3.4 - Power to Strike Out:
    • CPR 3.4(2)(a): The claim for £160 has no reasonable grounds, as it exceeds the lawful amount stipulated by PoFA 4(5).
    • CPR 3.4(2)(b): The claim represents an abuse of the court’s process by attempting to claim an amount not legally recoverable, thus obstructing the just disposal of proceedings.
    • CPR 27.14 - Costs on the Small Claims Track:
    • CPR 27.14(2)(g): The claimant’s behavior in pursuing an excessive and unlawful amount is unreasonable, warranting the claim to be struck out and costs awarded to the defendant.
  • Here is a first draft. Is this too vague?

    "  3. The defendant admits to parking in the car park and on the date stated in the POC, to attend work. The defendant purchased a parking ticket for the vehicle stated.
    [Shall I enter the car park details, the date and my reg?]
    4. To be able to park for the required number of hours, the defendant paid for a ticket which allowed parking for 12 hours. The defendant exited the car park after 9 hours.
    The defendant is still in possession of said paid ticket [should I add 'which clearly shows the correct vehicle reg, time paid for and date.' ? ]
    5. The defendant denies receiving any PCN(s). [Is this sentence ok or do I need to word it differently?]  "


    In the POC it says Failure to purchase ticket AND/OR WITHIN THE TIME ALLOWED. Do I need to look at their signage to be sure of the maximum time to purchase a ticket and comment on that? Or should i not mention that because I don't know which they are claiming for - unpaid ticket OR within the time allowed. I don't know which one they are claiming for because I didn't receive the PCN they said they issued.
    I don't want to complicate or hurt my defence by including something that is not needed or something that will favour the claimant.

    Thank you 
  • 1505grandad
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    "CPR 3.4(2)(a): The claim for £160 has no reasonable grounds, as it exceeds the lawful amount stipulated by PoFA 4(5)."

    I believe the claim form on page 1 shows £170?
  • That is amazing! Thank you so much C-M !!!
  • LDast
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    As a matter of interest, what was the date of the alleged breach of contract, the date the driver parked? In the PoC it states that the PCN was "issued" on 01/11/2023. Was that the date of the parking incident or the date that they "issued" or sent the PCN?
  • LDast said:
    As a matter of interest, what was the date of the alleged breach of contract, the date the driver parked? In the PoC it states that the PCN was "issued" on 01/11/2023. Was that the date of the parking incident or the date that they "issued" or sent the PCN?
    That is something else they haven't specified then isn't it? Because I didn't receive a PCN I'm unsure of the date of the alleged breach then. I know I parked on the 01/11/2023 so I assumed it was this date they are referring to.
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 18 June 2024 at 4:15PM
    No worries.

    Probably nothing to add now except the rest of the hharry100 wording (linked in the Template Defence) with the Chan images first, then the bit I wrote, then the re-numbered template defence para 4 onwards, right to the end. Sign & date it electronically and save as a PDF to email.
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  • LDast
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    Just another point that can be put in the Preliminary Matters for the allocating judge to strike the claim out. If the "issue" date of the PCN is the date of the alleged breach of contract, on what date was the actual invoice issued as any interest calculated must be from 28 days after that invoice date, which is unknown. The invoice could have been issued a day after or any time up to seven months after.
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