UPDATED - Dispute Resolution Hearing - An Outcome

VoyagerRaf

Coupon-mad said:

Search the forum for

N180 new compulsory mediation

or

N180 mandatory mediation

...very new changes not yet reflected in the advice.

Hi Coupon-mad, I have tried to find any new posts re new N180 form and noting comes up. I have not received my copy of N180 yet but decided to download and it's updated. Generally it does not ask wheter I'm happy to proceed with the mediation but rather asks for my contact details, availability and suggests in the printing comments if I fail to attend the mediation, the judge may rule in favour of the claimant which is Parkingeye. 

There is 1 question there I would need an advice on:
D1 Do you consider that this claim is suitable for determination without hearing, such as by jusge reading and considering the case papers, witnesess statements and other documants filed by the parties, making a decision, and giving a note of reasons for that decision?

Gr1pr

You should be waiting for the N180 to arrive in the post, then look at it to see if its the new version or the old version, because the answer to that conundrum will determine which version you should be using, especially if its the new version in the post 

If its the old version, offering mediation or not, choose not 

If its the new version, you dont get a choice , you get a free mediation interview 

Look for the recent posts about it, like the one below 

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/80836163#Comment_80836163?utm_source=community-search&utm_medium=organic-search&utm_term=new+n180+DQ+Grizebeck+

Also check the posts by Grizebeck and Ldast too

NB, the pilot scheme was running for a few years, but is supposedly mandatory from may 2024

The old version of the N180 was provided in a download link. (. Dropbox ?  )

If you need further advice, please use your own existing thread 

Coupon-mad

VoyagerRaf said:

Coupon-mad said:

Search the forum for

N180 new compulsory mediation

or

N180 mandatory mediation

...very new changes not yet reflected in the advice.

Hi Coupon-mad, I have tried to find any new posts re new N180 form and noting comes up. I have not received my copy of N180 yet but decided to download and it's updated. Generally it does not ask wheter I'm happy to proceed with the mediation but rather asks for my contact details, availability and suggests in the printing comments if I fail to attend the mediation, the judge may rule in favour of the claimant which is Parkingeye. 

There is 1 question there I would need an advice on:
D1 Do you consider that this claim is suitable for determination without hearing, such as by jusge reading and considering the case papers, witnesess statements and other documants filed by the parties, making a decision, and giving a note of reasons for that decision?

If 'nothing comes up' you haven't searched for those words properly. Are you using the search function at the top of the page? I just put N180 mandatory mediation into the search box and got 13 results.

No extra advice needed on that last question because the NEWBIES thread covers it.  Have another look.

  

NorthWalian

Gr1pr said:

You should be waiting for the N180 to arrive in the post, then look at it to see if its the new version or the old version, because the answer to that conundrum will determine which version you should be using, especially if its the new version in the post 

If its the old version, offering mediation or not, choose not 

If its the new version, you dont get a choice , you get a free mediation interview 

Look for the recent posts about it, like the one below 

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/80836163#Comment_80836163?utm_source=community-search&utm_medium=organic-search&utm_term=new+n180+DQ+Grizebeck+

Also check the posts by Grizebeck and Ldast too

NB, the pilot scheme was running for a few years, but is supposedly mandatory from may 2024

The old version of the N180 was provided in a download link. (. Dropbox ?  )

If you need further advice, please use your own existing thread 

As I have had the old version in the post, should I use that version instead of the email?

KeithP

NorthWalian said:

Gr1pr said:

You should be waiting for the N180 to arrive in the post, then look at it to see if its the new version or the old version, because the answer to that conundrum will determine which version you should be using, especially if its the new version in the post 

If its the old version, offering mediation or not, choose not 

If its the new version, you dont get a choice , you get a free mediation interview 

Look for the recent posts about it, like the one below 

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/80836163#Comment_80836163?utm_source=community-search&utm_medium=organic-search&utm_term=new+n180+DQ+Grizebeck+

Also check the posts by Grizebeck and Ldast too

NB, the pilot scheme was running for a few years, but is supposedly mandatory from may 2024

The old version of the N180 was provided in a download link. (. Dropbox ?  )

If you need further advice, please use your own existing thread 

As I have had the old version in the post, should I use that version instead of the email?

Yes, but email it. Remember to send a copy to the Claimant - one email, two addressees.

Pcyuljr1

Update Time

I submitted my defence last month and was awaiting a court date.

Instead, I received a letter titled 'General Form of Judgement or Order'.

Within it, the Judge (Preston County Court) has struck out the particulars of the claim as they do not disclose any reasonable grounds for bringing the claim and they do not sufficiently particularise the agreement upon which the claim is based.

The Judge has then provided VCS Ltd a further two weeks to provide a copy of the contract or documents constituting or evidencing any agreement on which the claim is based.

This was a stage I wasn't expecting - I was expecting either a court date or awaiting VCS/DBL to call it quits.

I'll let you know what happens next.

LDast

That is a good thing. The court can smell a rat when dealing with VCS and is putting them under pressure to abide by the rules and pay fair, which they don't usually do.

Please show us the amended PoC and the copies of the documents they have been ordered to provide (they must copy you, the defendant, in on anything they send to the court, just as you have been copied in with the court order given to VCS. Of course, they may just throw in the towel and discontinue.

Coupon-mad

Pcyuljr1 said:

Update Time

I submitted my defence last month and was awaiting a court date.

Instead, I received a letter titled 'General Form of Judgement or Order'.

Within it, the Judge (Preston County Court) has struck out the particulars of the claim as they do not disclose any reasonable grounds for bringing the claim and they do not sufficiently particularise the agreement upon which the claim is based.

The Judge has then provided VCS Ltd a further two weeks to provide a copy of the contract or documents constituting or evidencing any agreement on which the claim is based.

This was a stage I wasn't expecting - I was expecting either a court date or awaiting VCS/DBL to call it quits.

I'll let you know what happens next.

Please show us that Order!

Cover your name.

Pcyuljr1

@Coupon-mad here you go;

Coupon-mad

Thanks!

OK so tell us if you get their new submission by 4pm today, which is their deadline.  Don't assume they won't. Let's see.