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Returning a used car from a dealer

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  • born_again
    born_again Posts: 20,994 Forumite
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    Bruvva said:
    atticuspund said: 

    Update on Dispute with Wadda Traders Ltd – Court Action Taken, Company Now Trading Under New Name

    Since my last post, a County Court Judgment (CCJ) against has been obtained Wadda Traders Ltd for the full recovery of the purchase price of a vehicle that was misrepresented and plagued with issues. Despite the court ruling, the trader has remained entirely uncooperative, and bailiff enforcement has so far failed to recover any funds.

    What’s particularly concerning is that Wadda Traders Ltd has ceased trading and appears to have been replaced by a new entity, Jainf Ltd, which is trading from the same premises at 121 Canterbury Road, Croydon CR0 3HH. Public records show that the same individual who controlled Wadda is now the director of Jainf.

    This raises serious questions about phoenix trading, where a business is shut down and relaunched under a new name to avoid debts and legal obligations. While I make no formal accusation, the facts and timing suggest a deliberate attempt to avoid repaying owed money.

    Comments and reviews left on other platforms by other consumers appear to support a pattern of unsatisfactory conduct, and I strongly advise anyone considering buying from this business, under any name, to be extremely cautious.

    There is, at this stage, little hope of recovering the monies I am owed through Wadda, and the apparent continuity of trading under a new name with the same leadership is deeply troubling.

    ⚠️ If you’ve dealt with Wadda or Jainf, or have relevant information or similar experiences, I’d welcome any input or advice.

    I have an ongoing saga with Jainf which i will explain. Part exed a vehicle, he came to my home. Car he provided was mot failure. Refused to answer calls, emails. Advised cancellation of contract. Returned car to his showroom. Noone can get hold of him. Noone would take his key. The staff of another firm prevented me from leaving with my part ex vehicle. Wanted me to leave the key there. Thought best to hold onto it.
    I'm still the keeper. Do you think arrange charge back now or collect my vehicle first? Happy to keep you updated. Oh and did you see him and his girlfriend are convicted fraudsters following crash for cash in 2015....interesting chap indeed.

    Further to my earlier posts, Lloyds Bank, which initially advised that Charge Back did not apply, refunded the car purchase price and out-of-pocket expenses. Hopefully, they will work with Visa to curtail this rogue trader. My advice: do not bother with Small Claims Court and Bailiffs. They are ineffective in this case, and neither bailiffs nor the court returns calls. Good luck with your claim.
    Banks do not do anything like that. They are not there to police retailers.
    Visa might if retailer has to many chargebacks.

    Given the retailer is no longer trading. Then there is nothing to police.
    Life in the slow lane
  • Bruvva said:
    atticuspund said: 

    Update on Dispute with Wadda Traders Ltd – Court Action Taken, Company Now Trading Under New Name

    Since my last post, a County Court Judgment (CCJ) against has been obtained Wadda Traders Ltd for the full recovery of the purchase price of a vehicle that was misrepresented and plagued with issues. Despite the court ruling, the trader has remained entirely uncooperative, and bailiff enforcement has so far failed to recover any funds.

    What’s particularly concerning is that Wadda Traders Ltd has ceased trading and appears to have been replaced by a new entity, Jainf Ltd, which is trading from the same premises at 121 Canterbury Road, Croydon CR0 3HH. Public records show that the same individual who controlled Wadda is now the director of Jainf.

    This raises serious questions about phoenix trading, where a business is shut down and relaunched under a new name to avoid debts and legal obligations. While I make no formal accusation, the facts and timing suggest a deliberate attempt to avoid repaying owed money.

    Comments and reviews left on other platforms by other consumers appear to support a pattern of unsatisfactory conduct, and I strongly advise anyone considering buying from this business, under any name, to be extremely cautious.

    There is, at this stage, little hope of recovering the monies I am owed through Wadda, and the apparent continuity of trading under a new name with the same leadership is deeply troubling.

    ⚠️ If you’ve dealt with Wadda or Jainf, or have relevant information or similar experiences, I’d welcome any input or advice.

    I have an ongoing saga with Jainf which i will explain. Part exed a vehicle, he came to my home. Car he provided was mot failure. Refused to answer calls, emails. Advised cancellation of contract. Returned car to his showroom. Noone can get hold of him. Noone would take his key. The staff of another firm prevented me from leaving with my part ex vehicle. Wanted me to leave the key there. Thought best to hold onto it.
    I'm still the keeper. Do you think arrange charge back now or collect my vehicle first? Happy to keep you updated. Oh and did you see him and his girlfriend are convicted fraudsters following crash for cash in 2015....interesting chap indeed.

    Further to my earlier posts, Lloyds Bank, which initially advised that Charge Back did not apply, refunded the car purchase price and out-of-pocket expenses. Hopefully, they will work with Visa to curtail this rogue trader. My advice: do not bother with Small Claims Court and Bailiffs. They are ineffective in this case, and neither bailiffs nor the court returns calls. Good luck with your claim.
    Banks do not do anything like that. They are not there to police retailers.
    Visa might if retailer has to many chargebacks.

    Given the retailer is no longer trading. Then there is nothing to police.
    Wadda Traders Ltd ceased trading and was replaced by a new entityJainf Ltd, trading from the same premises at 121 Canterbury Road, Croydon CR0 3HH. Public records show that the same individual who controlled Wadda is now the director of Jainf.

    This raises serious questions about phoenix trading, where a business is shut down and relaunched under a new name to avoid debts and legal obligations. While I make no formal accusation, the facts and timing suggest a deliberate attempt to avoid repaying owed money.

    I hope that Visa will claw back the money they paid out from future trading. Without Visa, they probably won't be able to trade. They don't accept credit card payments, as that is too easy for the buyer to resolve.

  • Ectophile
    Ectophile Posts: 8,052 Forumite
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    A dodgy back street trader will have at least two companies on the go at any time.  That way, they can switch from one to another the moment thet get a CCJ against one of the companies.
    If it sticks, force it.
    If it breaks, well it wasn't working right anyway.
  • born_again
    born_again Posts: 20,994 Forumite
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    Bruvva said:
    atticuspund said: 

    Update on Dispute with Wadda Traders Ltd – Court Action Taken, Company Now Trading Under New Name

    Since my last post, a County Court Judgment (CCJ) against has been obtained Wadda Traders Ltd for the full recovery of the purchase price of a vehicle that was misrepresented and plagued with issues. Despite the court ruling, the trader has remained entirely uncooperative, and bailiff enforcement has so far failed to recover any funds.

    What’s particularly concerning is that Wadda Traders Ltd has ceased trading and appears to have been replaced by a new entity, Jainf Ltd, which is trading from the same premises at 121 Canterbury Road, Croydon CR0 3HH. Public records show that the same individual who controlled Wadda is now the director of Jainf.

    This raises serious questions about phoenix trading, where a business is shut down and relaunched under a new name to avoid debts and legal obligations. While I make no formal accusation, the facts and timing suggest a deliberate attempt to avoid repaying owed money.

    Comments and reviews left on other platforms by other consumers appear to support a pattern of unsatisfactory conduct, and I strongly advise anyone considering buying from this business, under any name, to be extremely cautious.

    There is, at this stage, little hope of recovering the monies I am owed through Wadda, and the apparent continuity of trading under a new name with the same leadership is deeply troubling.

    ⚠️ If you’ve dealt with Wadda or Jainf, or have relevant information or similar experiences, I’d welcome any input or advice.

    I have an ongoing saga with Jainf which i will explain. Part exed a vehicle, he came to my home. Car he provided was mot failure. Refused to answer calls, emails. Advised cancellation of contract. Returned car to his showroom. Noone can get hold of him. Noone would take his key. The staff of another firm prevented me from leaving with my part ex vehicle. Wanted me to leave the key there. Thought best to hold onto it.
    I'm still the keeper. Do you think arrange charge back now or collect my vehicle first? Happy to keep you updated. Oh and did you see him and his girlfriend are convicted fraudsters following crash for cash in 2015....interesting chap indeed.

    Further to my earlier posts, Lloyds Bank, which initially advised that Charge Back did not apply, refunded the car purchase price and out-of-pocket expenses. Hopefully, they will work with Visa to curtail this rogue trader. My advice: do not bother with Small Claims Court and Bailiffs. They are ineffective in this case, and neither bailiffs nor the court returns calls. Good luck with your claim.
    Banks do not do anything like that. They are not there to police retailers.
    Visa might if retailer has to many chargebacks.

    Given the retailer is no longer trading. Then there is nothing to police.
    Wadda Traders Ltd ceased trading and was replaced by a new entityJainf Ltd, trading from the same premises at 121 Canterbury Road, Croydon CR0 3HH. Public records show that the same individual who controlled Wadda is now the director of Jainf.

    This raises serious questions about phoenix trading, where a business is shut down and relaunched under a new name to avoid debts and legal obligations. While I make no formal accusation, the facts and timing suggest a deliberate attempt to avoid repaying owed money.

    I hope that Visa will claw back the money they paid out from future trading. Without Visa, they probably won't be able to trade. They don't accept credit card payments, as that is too easy for the buyer to resolve.

    Sadly happens all the time. Needs government legislation to stop it happening. Nothings banks or card providers can do to stop this from happening.

    Any money claimed back via chargebacks comes from the retailers merchant bank. How they get it back is up to them. Most will write it off in cases such as this, as they know that there is nothing to claim via courts.
    Visa do not claim anything. As all they do is supply cards to banks & have the regulations on card usage.

    Sadly many ways a retailer can take card payments via the many payment processers.
    Life in the slow lane
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