Managed Migration/ Tax credits/ ESA(c)

Voctor555

Have received notice to Apply for UC in 3 months.

I believe I will get Transitional protection for 12 months.  

I would like to know what happens to my ESA (old style) contribution based after 12 months when the UC will stop due to having above the savings limit.

If as part of the Migration will I be moved to New style ESA contribution based? If yes then when UC ends will I continue getting New Style ESA only or will that be stopped as it is under the new UC system?

Newcad

Contribution based benefits are not migrated to UC, only Income Related benefits are migrated.

You don't mention it but I assume that you are in Support Group because CB ESA WRAG only lasts 12 month whether it's old or new style ESA. (So would have long run out by now in old style ESA).

Any CB part of your current ESA will remain in payment at the basic Support Group rate, no premiums though because those are Income Related ESA and IR ESA gets replaced by UC Elements*.
Once you have claimed UC your remaining CB ESA will then come under 'New Style' rules.

So you will still get that CB ESA paid fortnightly, but an equivalent amount will be deducted from your UC payment each month so that you are not being paid for the same thing twice. (An amount equivalent to your weekly CB ESA x 52 /12 will be deducted each month from your UC).

*If you are in ESA Support Group, (or still get paid extra for being in the WRAG group), then that will mean extra money in your UC, that happens automatically when you migrate, there is no need for a new assessment*. (UC-LCWRA Element or UC-LCW Element respectively).
You will not be expected to look for work under UC LCWRA or LCW, but if you were ESA WRAG you will be expected to have work focused interviews/activities in UC LCW just like in ESA WRAG.

With a Managed Migration then if as you say you still have savings/capital of over £16k at the end of the 12 months 'savings disreagard' then the UC will stop - but the CB ESA is nothing to do with UC and will continue to be paid for as long as you are in Support Group.

*Whilst I said above there is no need for a new Work Capability Assessment when migrating to UC from ESA you will almost certainly be asked to provide fit notes to UC when you first migrate.
They are not actually needed, it's just the automated system that hasn't had confirmation of your ESA status yet and so asks for them automatically, once things catch up in a week or two they will say you don't need to send any.
(It's something they were supposed to be fixing before they stated Managed Migrations from ESA, but as we know they tore up the Managed Migration timetable so I doubt that it's been fixed yet).

Voctor555

my transitional protection for the universal credit payment  seems to low.

The full payment of universal credits I will receive, is considerably lower than the Tax credits and working tax credits I previously received.

 I believe the earnings adjustment figure on UC is incorrect. 

Newcad

You don't give any details and those will be needed if someone is to check it for you.

It's not my forte, so it won't be me.

Note though that you need to check your UC statement to see what the actual Transitional Element is.

It's the total UC Entitlement before any deductions that should be the same as before, not the UC Payment after deductions have been made.

Your TP may well be correct and you are getting less because of other UC deductions made after the TP element has been added.
eg. Deduction for earnings at 55p in the £ are made after the TP has been added to your overall UC entitlement, so you have to compare what your UC is before those deductions to what you used to get with TC's.

If you don't want to give deatils on the open forum then the online benefits calculators at Entitledto and Turn2us can also do TP calculation now, just put in what you were getting before claiming UC and they should tell you what TP you should expect. (Use both for a double check?)

https://www.entitledto.co.uk/benefits-calculator/Intro/Home?cid=f8ea28c3-d8f1-4702-82c6-02dc53b6093a

https://benefits-calculator.turn2us.org.uk/survey/1/846676ef-2950-4e61-945f-df55fc7e6bab

Info on TPs:

https://www.entitledto.co.uk/help/Transitional-protection-Universal-Credit
https://www.turn2us.org.uk/get-support/information-for-your-situation/universal-credit-uc-transitional-protection/how-much-universal-credit-uc-transitional-protection-will-i-get