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Change of Tenant - advice please !
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Hi, I just wanted to get some advice on the following situation:
There are 4 of us living in a shared house, we are in a joint tenancy (assured shorthold tenancy) with a fixed term of 12 months. We moved in in September 2023 so the fixed term ends in September this year.
One of us would like to move out into a new flat at the end of June and we have found someone who is willing and able to move in at the start of July. We have contacted the agency to start the process of assigning the tenancy (there is a fully qualified covenant for assignment in the contract) but have been told by the agency that they legally cannot assign the tenancy in the last 6 months of the tenancy. From my understanding, it is possible to assign at any point with the landlord's consent.
They have said that we would need to enter into a new contract with the 3 of us plus the new housemate however this would again be for a period of 12 months (which some of the current housemates may not wish to commit to) and may also mean a rent increase after only 9 months living there.
There are 4 of us living in a shared house, we are in a joint tenancy (assured shorthold tenancy) with a fixed term of 12 months. We moved in in September 2023 so the fixed term ends in September this year.
One of us would like to move out into a new flat at the end of June and we have found someone who is willing and able to move in at the start of July. We have contacted the agency to start the process of assigning the tenancy (there is a fully qualified covenant for assignment in the contract) but have been told by the agency that they legally cannot assign the tenancy in the last 6 months of the tenancy. From my understanding, it is possible to assign at any point with the landlord's consent.
They have said that we would need to enter into a new contract with the 3 of us plus the new housemate however this would again be for a period of 12 months (which some of the current housemates may not wish to commit to) and may also mean a rent increase after only 9 months living there.
- Is it true that the tenancy cannot be assigned with less than 6 months to run on the fixed term? The agency have cited section 21 as support for this and said the landlord cannot end the tenancy with less than 6 months, which is obviously not the case here as the tenant is choosing to assign.
- If it is true, would it be possible to wait until September when the fixed term rolls into a periodic tenancy and then assign? Would this be the best option?
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[Deleted User] said:We have contacted the agency to start the process of assigning the tenancy (there is a fully qualified covenant for assignment in the contract) but have been told by the agency that they legally cannot assign the tenancy in the last 6 months of the tenancy. From my understanding, it is possible to assign at any point with the landlord's consent.
- Is it true that the tenancy cannot be assigned with less than 6 months to run on the fixed term? The agency have cited section 21 as support for this and said the landlord cannot end the tenancy with less than 6 months, which is obviously not the case here as the tenant is choosing to assign
However I do see the LL's worry, albeit ultra conservative, that a bad LL could exploit this by pretending a fully new tenancy was just an assignment from all the old tenants to all the new ones and no one remaining to get around the 6 month rule. So they could see the 6 month protection as applying to the new person's start date.[Deleted User] said:- If it is true, would it be possible to wait until September when the fixed term rolls into a periodic tenancy and then assign? Would this be the best option?
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There's no need for any new paperwork at all. (NB there is only 1 "tenant" - all 4 of you).
One (or three..) moving out does not end existing tenancy nor their liability for the rent. Just do it. New occupant is in happy position of no liability for rent
Nothing preventing him having lodger agreement for 1/4 or total rent (remaining 3 being collectively his landlord ).
Yes, there would be two landlords.
Entirely legal (England). Bonkers, but...1 -
saajan_12 said:[Deleted User] said:We have contacted the agency to start the process of assigning the tenancy (there is a fully qualified covenant for assignment in the contract) but have been told by the agency that they legally cannot assign the tenancy in the last 6 months of the tenancy. From my understanding, it is possible to assign at any point with the landlord's consent.
- Is it true that the tenancy cannot be assigned with less than 6 months to run on the fixed term? The agency have cited section 21 as support for this and said the landlord cannot end the tenancy with less than 6 months, which is obviously not the case here as the tenant is choosing to assign
However I do see the LL's worry, albeit ultra conservative, that a bad LL could exploit this by pretending a fully new tenancy was just an assignment from all the old tenants to all the new ones and no one remaining to get around the 6 month rule. So they could see the 6 month protection as applying to the new person's start date.
Is there anywhere that I can point to (statute/case law) that would enforce the fact that it doesn't create a new tenancy with the agency as currently they are not taking on board my point?0 -
theartfullodger said:There's no need for any new paperwork at all. (NB there is only 1 "tenant" - all 4 of you).
One (or three..) moving out does not end existing tenancy nor their liability for the rent. Just do it. New occupant is in happy position of no liability for rent
Nothing preventing him having lodger agreement for 1/4 or total rent (remaining 3 being collectively his landlord ).
Yes, there would be two landlords.
Entirely legal (England). Bonkers, but...
Is there anywhere that I can point to (statute/case law) that would enforce the fact that it doesn't create a new tenancy, with the agency as currently they are not taking on board my point at all?
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I had this years ago when I moved out of a property due to a personality clash. The other 3 tenants agreed to cover the entire rent, and they then sublet my room to a lodger until the 12 month tenancy had finished. The lodger's deposit was given to me. The lodger's rent was the same as my share of the rent was so no one was out of pocket. It worked just fine.Should've = Should HAVE (not 'of')
Would've = Would HAVE (not 'of')
No, I am not perfect, but yes I do judge people on their use of basic English language. If you didn't know the above, then learn it! (If English is your second language, then you are forgiven!)0 -
[Deleted User] said:The issue I have is that we have to go through the agency (who probably haven't even informed the landlord) and are claiming that they we cannot legally assign.
If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing0 -
There is absolutely no legal impediment to assigning a tenancy in the last 6 months.The new tenant takes on all the rights and liabilities of the departing tenant.Saajan_12's suggestion that the LL (or his agent) might be concerned that a new tenancy is created, thus making serving of a S21 impossible for 6 months may be true - I mean the LL's concern may be true - but assignment does NOT end a tenancy, nor create a new one.Indeed there are two ways the 4 names on the joint tenancy can be changed1) mutually agree (all 4 tenants + LL) to surrender the tenancy. Return the deposit and do all end-of-tenancy processes. Then create a new tenancy, in new names, and take a new deposit, new inventory, issue EPC/gas report etc etcor2) assign the outgoing tenant's rights/obligations to the incoming tenant (who pays the outgoing tenant their share of the deposit). The existing tenancy continues (till Sept) when it is either renewed, changed automatically to a periodic AST, or the 4 tenant vacate and the tenancy ends.As with 1) above LL consent is required as is all 4 existing + new incoming tenant.As suggested earlier the alternative is for 1 of the existing tenants to just move out, and the new occupant to move in as a lodger, paying rent to the remaining 3 joint tenants. The problem with this is that the departing tenant remains a tenant, and remains liable for any shortfall in rent, damage etc.
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propertyrental said:There is absolutely no legal impediment to assigning a tenancy in the last 6 months.The new tenant takes on all the rights and liabilities of the departing tenant.Saajan_12's suggestion that the LL (or his agent) might be concerned that a new tenancy is created, thus making serving of a S21 impossible for 6 months may be true - I mean the LL's concern may be true - but assignment does NOT end a tenancy, nor create a new one.Indeed there are two ways the 4 names on the joint tenancy can be changed1) mutually agree (all 4 tenants + LL) to surrender the tenancy. Return the deposit and do all end-of-tenancy processes. Then create a new tenancy, in new names, and take a new deposit, new inventory, issue EPC/gas report etc etcor2) assign the outgoing tenant's rights/obligations to the incoming tenant (who pays the outgoing tenant their share of the deposit). The existing tenancy continues (till Sept) when it is either renewed, changed automatically to a periodic AST, or the 4 tenant vacate and the tenancy ends.As with 1) above LL consent is required as is all 4 existing + new incoming tenant.As suggested earlier the alternative is for 1 of the existing tenants to just move out, and the new occupant to move in as a lodger, paying rent to the remaining 3 joint tenants. The problem with this is that the departing tenant remains a tenant, and remains liable for any shortfall in rent, damage etc.0
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You don't have to go through agent, you are entitled to go direct to landlord.
Artful, Landlord since 20001 -
theartfullodger said:You don't have to go through agent, you are entitled to go direct to landlord.
Artful, Landlord since 2000and if you don't have the LL's actual address, you can require the agent to provide it:
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