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Money Moral Dilemma: Should my son ask for another pay rise on top of his recent one?

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  • Ed264
    Ed264 Posts: 148 Forumite
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    Yes, definitely should initiate some negotiations. 
  • If aged 22, I would treat is as a learning point for future pay "negotiations".

    However, as others have said, maybe he should now seek to schedule a conversation with his line manager or senior about what he can do within the company to increase his promotion/advancement prospects.

    Also, it is never too early to start looking further afield - if pay is a strong motivator.

    Whilst bearing in mind that "the grass is always greener...", "bird in the hand... etc", perhaps there are other jobs for which he is qualified that would offer a significant salary increase.
  • bluelad1927
    bluelad1927 Posts: 407 Forumite
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    Marcon said:
    This week's MoneySaver who wants advice asks...

    My son's 22 and works in a salaried role. His pay began just above the national minimum wage. Following his last performance review, he was given a percentage pay increase as recognition for his efforts. But with the national minimum wage having increased last month, and the top rate now being paid from the age of 21 instead of 23, the pay increase he worked hard for has effectively been cancelled out. Should he ask for another increase to compensate for this?

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    But why does he need a parent to ask the question here on his behalf, rather than raising it himself? He's 22 and needs to take responsibility - and be allowed to take responsibility - for himself.
    What a pointless paragraph.

    A huge amount of posts on here are on behalf of others and its not a forum rule so no need to single people out
  • hannerrbabes
    hannerrbabes Posts: 206 Forumite
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    Most companies schedule annual salary increases to account for the minimum wage and inflation increases. Either your son will be given this soon, OR his recent salary increase was to cover this. 
  • I would love to know whom I can ask for a pay rise on my disability benefits! I wish I could still work as I’d be earning a fortune now with this minimum wage. My last job before I was made disabled was as a carer.  I worked 7am- 11pm every day for a year without any days off or holidays. If the phone at home rang we had to answer it and then go into work or we were sacked. When I worked out my wage per hour when I quit after a year I discovered I was earning 27p per hour, and being attacked by the clients, without any support, as we worked on our own with 3 disabled adults. 
    So on the back of my work life I would say be happy and grateful for the wage you have and don’t push anything or you could find yourself out of a job, especially when it’s now two years minimum service before you can claim any kind of unfair dismissal. 
  • Let go, mummy, it isn't your concern.
  • They have probably factored it in, knowing it was coming into force. 

    I've no issue with increased NMW OR NLW, everybody should be paid fairly. But other wages need to increase too to reflect skills, performance and experience. I worked in local authority and was at the top of my pay scale when I was TUPEd into the voluntary sector, only to find my wage frozen, the gap narrowing, new and less experienced employees closing in because of this. The employer said they couldn't afford to give us an increase too and many effectively became worse off as our hours were reduced to compensate.
  • Yes. Wage slavery is all about getting the biggest share possible.
  • Missy15
    Missy15 Posts: 37 Forumite
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    Don't ask don't get!
  • bikaga
    bikaga Posts: 201 Forumite
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    I would raise it with my manager. If it's a small company, he might be lucky. For larger companies, they probably won't, as it would mean making an exception and opening the door for lots of requests.

    Timing of these things is often terrible, I've been in a job where the pay ranges were adjusted so that I was lower in the band than I was where I started. My partner basically had two steps in his band cancelled as the range was shifted, so people who started years after him suddenly earned the same.

    The best way to deal with it is be pleased that he's still got his raise, and that others also have a bit more to live on. With the current cost of anything from food to accommodation to energy, we can all do with a bit more :) No harm in mentioning it though!

    Also I'm laughing at how everyone is assuming that the question came from a "helicopter mum" just because an MSE staffer named Laura posted this. Sexism is alive and well in here.
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