Money Moral Dilemma: Should my son ask for another pay rise on top of his recent one?

NIGE9359

Maybe the pay rise took into account the NLW increase  / change the company knew was going to happen 

Hodgie

He’s twenty-two years old and his mother is asking something like this on his behalf?  Oh, dear.

rgke

No. On this basis everyone in paid employment should get the increase in minimum wage amount added to their income.  By all means he can ask for pay rise at any point, but not justified using this argument. 

JuliusCaesar

What he really needs is for you to stop  being a 'helicopter parent'.

Danien

If they offer your son an upgrade in pay due to new minimum wage then they would have to offer it to other employees too - they were all x amount above minimum wage before and now you expect the employer to make everyone x amount above minimum wage again? That is basically the argument you are making about your son. His pay rise hasn't been wiped out just because other low paid workers got a raise due to change in minimum wage. He still has the raise.

Personally in this situation I wouldn't ask for the raise, just concentrate on working hard for the next rise, and I've been successful in asking for pay rises before. Ask for a pay raise when you can back up your request with your own work and experience and similar pay rates for that work and experience or when there is genuine unfairness. But in this case the new minimum wage was imposed on the company, they have to upgrade their workers below the new minimum wage but not everyone else.

I'm guessing this is a case of you've told your son he should ask for a raise and he's said no, so you've been asking around to support your own position.

In this case your son has read the situation correctly.

Penguin_

When the NMW changed this year, if someone was say 22 & they were being paid 45p per hour above the NMW for a 22 year old, we automatically put them on 45p above the new rate for their age.

He can by all means ask, as people have said the worst they can say is no.

Pruberry

'At his age he should be making his own decisions and not having his parent posting his "dilemma" or trying to bolster opinion for him.'

I think this comment extremely impolite. The post invited opinions on the specific question of asking for a pay rise: that's all. There may be all sorts of reasons for his parent posting for him , but it's none of our business.

Oldtaxfart

He should get a further rise, it will help Mum keep her hours up on her helicopter licence.  It is not your dilemma, if there is one, it’s his.

eao

I think that the comments about the son taking responsibility are reasonable but I think that they could be made in a more gentle way.  Is it not a good thing that he can discuss his problems with his parents.  My children in the 40s and 50s know that they can discuss problems and dilemmas with us and we are pleased about that.
Back to the job; I agree with 'research the rate for the job' and avoid, if possible linking to NLW.

LP53

It may have already been factored in but won’t hurt for him to ask as it’s not unreasonable to do so.
There’s nothing wrong with the person asking advise for her son. Perhaps he asked his mum her opinion and she decided to ask us. He still is young and some people young or old struggle with assertiveness when asking questions to their boss.
Some people ask what their husbands should do etc.