Parking Charge from Brewerygate Limited

IronMan22

Hi

I’ve received a Parking Charge from Brewerygate Limited. I’ve previously used the forum for successful defences of private parking charges, but this feels a little different. There are only a couple of threads on here that reference this company, and having read the sticky, I am not sure what the best course of action is. 

At the car park on the day in question, the machines to pay were not working. There is photographic evidence of two of them saying out of service. Another had a yellow cover over it but no photo. M No other machines were seen. At the top of the machine is a sign to indicate that you can also pay via an App (this may or may not be relevant, I am not sure).

I was not driving nor there But I am the keeper.

The letter does say it is a Notice to Keeper. It was received within 14 days of the alleged contravention. It states the company uses IAS for appeals and says they adhere to ATA code of practice. It suggests they are a member of the IPC.

The letter provides no evidence but when looking online there are photos. These are two close up photos of the number plate, and two wider showing the front and rear (slightly blocked plate) with time stamps. 

Should I reply pointing out that the I am the keeper and wasn’t driving and will not be telling them who, will be complaining to the MP/council (no point with landowner as the same people own the land I believe) etc.

or 

Should I point out the machines were not working and show this? (Though this indicates awareness of who was driving)

IronMan22

This is the front and rear of the letter

This is the form they want to fill in or you can do it online

Gr1pr

Why do you believe that not being the driver helps your stance. ?

As a non driving keeper, you do have the option to name the driver, then the driver can appeal based on faulty machines etc, but if they could not pay they should have left promptly or paid using phone pay or the app in order to stay 

Faulty or covered up machines doesn't grant permission to park 

Coupon-mad

IronMan22 said:

This is the front and rear of the letter

Looks like a POFA worded NTK except I can't see any dates.  The date of sending and the date of the parking event need to be shown to us.

If you go as if to appeal online you should find the photos taken.  My advice that you try one appeal then ignore it (DO NOT TRY IAS) is the same as here:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/80615895#Comment_80615895?utm_source=community-search&utm_medium=organic-search&utm_term=ignore+IAS+AD

You won't be paying.

Here's a thread like yours:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6509988/pcn-ntk-with-no-photo-evidence

IronMan22

Coupon-mad said:

IronMan22 said:

This is the front and rear of the letter

Looks like a POFA worded NTK except I can't see any dates.  The date of sending and the date of the parking event need to be shown to us.

If you go as if to appeal online you should find the photos taken.  My advice that you try one appeal then ignore it (DO NOT TRY IAS) is the same as here:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/80615895#Comment_80615895?utm_source=community-search&utm_medium=organic-search&utm_term=ignore+IAS+AD

You won't be paying.

Here's a thread like yours:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6509988/pcn-ntk-with-no-photo-evidence

Thanks - date of parking event was 27 April, letter was sent 2 May and received yesterday 7 May. So within the timeframes I read about. 

For the appeal, is it best to do the ‘I wasn’t the driver’ argument, or just state the machines were broken with no way to pay?

Gr1pr

IMHO, neither, for the reasons I already mentioned 

Just appeal as keeper with the blue text template appeal in the newbies sticky thread in announcements 

Or 

Throw the driver under the bus

BennyBanks365

Hi, unfortunately I was recently hit with one of these from Brewerygate. I wanted to check how your appeal went? 

James_Poisson

BennyBanks365 said:

Hi, unfortunately I was recently hit with one of these from Brewerygate. I wanted to check how your appeal went? 

The OP hasn't been back on here for over a year and popping a post on the bottom of this thread is unlikely to wake them up.

We can all guess pretty accurately how the appeal went, as there is no money in accepting appeals I am 100% sure the first appeal failed and 94% certain the IAS appeal failed.

Brewerygate are a small fry company that own that site and also do the parking management, but are basically one family running the whole show, they don't cover other car parks as far as is known, and are a bit amateurish just look at that "Statement of Truth" threatening "prosecution" arguably sanctionable with the IPC!

You would be better off reading through the newbies thread on here, then coming back if you need more help, these are just scam charges from greedy dimwits, they may huff and puff but it will get nowhere, though you haven't told us much.

You also need to start your own thread please!

Coupon-mad

BennyBanks365 said:

Hi, unfortunately I was recently hit with one of these from Brewerygate. I wanted to check how your appeal went? 

Nothing bad will have happened.

You don't pay private parking charges all the time the rogue industry remains an unregulated Wild West.

Car1980

Very amusing Word template 

No need for a logo, just Helvetica Bold in all caps will do!