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I think her best step would be to lodge a complaint with them, if she hasn't done so already. This may be difficult if she doesn't have an account as there may be no way for NatWest to log anything on their system as (supposedly) she isn't on it. And then escalate it should they shut the complaint down without helping her.
I'm guessing that the reason may be that there was identity theft. Where someone used her details to take out a loan or similar and that this happened without her noticing. An alternative may be that something happened with another part of the NatWest group - so RBS perhaps.I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on Debt Free Wannabe and Old Style Money Saving boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.
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If she submits a DSAR to CIFAS she will likely get some useful information and it will probably help when trying to get Natwest to figure out what have they have done.
https://www.cifas.org.uk/dsar
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Suing them for their mistake would seem a reasonable course of action, if they were reckless in making their mistake, or if they will not correct it as soon as it is clear that it is a mistake.
Does your daughter live at home with you? Do you have Home Insurance? Sometime people with Home Insurance have legal expenses cover that they don't know about. She should be covered by any policy you have if she lives with you. If she is covered, you should talk to the Legal Helpline asap for advice. NatWest might also take her complaint more seriously if it is made by solicitors representing her.The comments I post are my personal opinion. While I try to check everything is correct before posting, I can and do make mistakes, so always try to check official information sources before relying on my posts.0 -
It's a big leap to threaten to sue as the staff will immediately stop talking to her and any complaint would be put on hold. Much easier to formally complain and escalate to FOS as needed
Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness:
People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.
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Thanks for your replies. She has asked NatWest to remove the marker but they said they reviewed her case and found no reason to remove it! Still no response as to why it was placed in the first place and it seems completely wrong they are allowed to do this. She's had to turn down job offers because she doesn't have a bank account 😡0
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The_Masked_Avenger said:Thanks for your replies. She has asked NatWest to remove the marker but they said they reviewed her case and found no reason to remove it! Still no response as to why it was placed in the first place and it seems completely wrong they are allowed to do this. She's had to turn down job offers because she doesn't have a bank account 😡
https://www.nationwide.co.uk/current-accounts/flexbasic/
She needs to COMPLAIN to NatWest, not ask them to remove it. Ring, write, email, do on the app whatever her preference but mark it as a complaint clearly then the bank have to take action and either issue a deadlock letter or agree to resolve it. After 8 weeks or on the receipt of the deadlock she can refer to the FOS. There may well be a compensation element if they agree it was incorrectly applied.
Please don't take this the wrong way but I would strongly suggest you have an open and honest conversation with her, you don't say her age but there are a fair few cases of people, particularly young ones/students acting as money mules (basically receiving money in their account then sending it on while keeping a small fee) to allow criminals to launder cash. Similarly trying to take out credit using false details. NatWest are unlikely to just chuck around a CIFAS marker for no reason and I wouldn't automatically assume she has never had dealings with NatWest
CIFAS themselves reported over 8600 cases in just 9 months in 2017
https://www.cifas.org.uk/newsroom/new-data-reveals-stark-increase-young-people-acting-money-mules
Sam Vimes' Boots Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness:
People are rich because they spend less money. A poor man buys $10 boots that last a season or two before he's walking in wet shoes and has to buy another pair. A rich man buys $50 boots that are made better and give him 10 years of dry feet. The poor man has spent $100 over those 10 years and still has wet feet.
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