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How do I know when to change timing belt?

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  • andy71_2
    andy71_2 Posts: 7 Forumite
    Thanks very much for this information.

    The car was serviced by Vauxhall up to the last service (which was about a year ago). For this service, I took it to a local garage. When it broke down it was taken to a Vauxhall garage which came up with the huge bill. I sold the car as a non-runner as the repair exceeded the value of the car.

    There is another thing which I've been wondering about. When the timing chain failed, the car was stationery; it simply failed to start. I'm curious as to how so much damage was caused in this case. Perhaps an well-intended attempt to jump-start the car contributed to the problem?
  • jeannieblue
    jeannieblue Posts: 4,761 Forumite
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    andy71 wrote: »
    Thanks very much for this information.

    The car was serviced by Vauxhall up to the last service (which was about a year ago). For this service, I took it to a local garage. When it broke down it was taken to a Vauxhall garage which came up with the huge bill. I sold the car as a non-runner as the repair exceeded the value of the car.

    There is another thing which I've been wondering about. When the timing chain failed, the car was stationery; it simply failed to start. I'm curious as to how so much damage was caused in this case. Perhaps an well-intended attempt to jump-start the car contributed to the problem?
    I'm interested on the answer to your last paragraph there and hope a knowledgable person out there can answer it! I know that if going along and it goes (as with cam belt) alot of damage can be done.

    Shame you didn't know to stop driving when it started to rattle or get it checked - at least this will help others to be aware.
    Genie
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  • vaio
    vaio Posts: 12,287 Forumite
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    I'm interested on the answer to your last paragraph there and hope a knowledgeable person out there can answer it! I know that if going along and it goes (as with cam belt) a lot of damage can be done.

    Shame you didn't know to stop driving when it started to rattle or get it checked - at least this will help others to be aware.

    the Vauxhall chains don’t break, they wear due to lack of oil and then slip on the sprocket. For some reason most do it whilst being started (maybe to do with the virtually infinite acceleration needed to go from zero to tick over???).

    Normal result is bent valves, sometimes (rarely) cam/bearings/followers/head.
  • cyclonebri1
    cyclonebri1 Posts: 12,827 Forumite
    vaio wrote: »
    the Vauxhall chains don’t break, they wear due to lack of oil and then slip on the sprocket. For some reason most do it whilst being started (maybe to do with the virtually infinite acceleration needed to go from zero to tick over???).

    Normal result is bent valves, sometimes (rarely) cam/bearings/followers/head.

    Thats my experience too, even with belts. More often than not they go on start up.
    I like the thanks button, but ,please, an I agree button.

    Will the grammar and spelling police respect I do make grammatical errors, and have carp spelling, no need to remind me.;)

    Always expect the unexpected:eek:and then you won't be dissapointed
  • djheath
    djheath Posts: 453 Forumite
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    andy71 wrote: »

    There is another thing which I've been wondering about. When the timing chain failed, the car was stationery; it simply failed to start. I'm curious as to how so much damage was caused in this case. Perhaps an well-intended attempt to jump-start the car contributed to the problem?

    The timing belt/chain opens the valves at the right point, when the piston is also at the right point. When the piston moves up the engine, the timing belt/chain ensures the valves are closed and moved out of the way of the incoming piston. If the belt snapped, but the engine was not moving there is no problem. Its as soon as the engine is moved then pistons can hit valves which means valves are bent, pistons broken and all in all, lots of painful noises and a big repair bill!! In your case, as soon as you started turning the engine over, jumpstarting it the damage would be happening. Not nice.
  • andy71_2
    andy71_2 Posts: 7 Forumite
    OK, thanks for the info!
  • PM
    PM Posts: 518 Forumite
    I have a 52 plaate toyota corolla thats done 75k anyone know when belt would need changing
  • jb66
    jb66 Posts: 1,705 Forumite
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    My last BMW had done 144k and still had the original timing chain
  • Hintza
    Hintza Posts: 19,420 Forumite
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    PM wrote: »
    I have a 52 plaate toyota corolla thats done 75k anyone know when belt would need changing

    You will be living on borrowed time. Our Golf's went at 33K miles when the interval was 80K miles (I think VW have since reduced this).

    Someone will be along shortly tell yoo when the recommended interval is but I would be getting it done.

    And in response to the previous poster a timing chain is a completely different kettle of fish and in most cases should last the life of the car.
  • jeannieblue
    jeannieblue Posts: 4,761 Forumite
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    Is it a VVTI engine? If so, it has a timing chain.
    Genie
    Master Technician
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