Bouncing Beagle

I_love_my_Pomeranian

New to site and finding this thread fascinating. Can I recommend the liver treats I use, they are tiny so great for my pom, and fit the kongs, they are liver treats from this website www.dogtraininginfo.co.uk, I stumbled across them a few years back and am a real convert. They have just changed their website though, and the prices have gone up :-( but if you buy a 1000 bag it is really economical and cheaper than most others on the market.

Has anyone else tried them?

katiep_2

I_love_my_Pomeranian wrote: »

New to site and finding this thread fascinating. Can I recommend the liver treats I use, they are tiny so great for my pom, and fit the kongs, they are liver treats from this website www.dogtraininginfo.co.uk, I stumbled across them a few years back and am a real convert. They have just changed their website though, and the prices have gone up :-( but if you buy a 1000 bag it is really economical and cheaper than most others on the market.

Has anyone else tried them?

I've just taken a look at those treats, and two things rang alarm bells for me straight away. 1st was "meat and animal derivatives" ie all the cr$p that humans won't eat, and the second was "various sugars" :eek: As an owner of a working breed dog (springer x collie) there's no way I'd feed him "various sugars"!!! Liver is a great training treat however, an I find cooking up some nice cheap liver from the butchers works just fine for me

With regards to the OP, we had a real jumping up problem with our dog, and it was quickly fixed as somebody has already said by ignoring the undesired behaviour. OK, so sitting down with a cup of tea may have to take a back seat for a day or two, but every time he jumps up, completely ignore him. If you are standing up, turn your back, and if you are sitting down, stand up. Do not touch him, do not look at him, and do not speak to him. All of these things are attention, which is exactly what he's after. As a working breed I'd imagine he's pretty intelligent and will pick this up very quickly.

WeirdoMagnet

They're also very high in protein, and aren't that moneysaving if you feed up to their recommendation "Little dogs (upto 3-4 kilos) not more than 170 tablets spread over the day.". :eek:

For most of our training, I use normal kibble (Burns), and for higher level training, or when I'm teaching something new, I use tiny pieces of meat, cheese, or a doggy choc drop broken into pieces.

I_love_my_Pomeranian

I've emailed them regarding those points ... so we will see what they say!

affordmylife

I HAVE A BEAGLE TOO.

My boy is 2 and a half now tho.

He is the laziest dog in the world. I walk him three times a day for about 10-15 mins but if i didnt take him he would just sleep all day and all night.

When a pup i thought wearing him out was the answer but now i just think it is a stage to get through they do eventually calm down. We had him neutered at 6months and it made a huge difference. I would recommend it personally.

With regards to jumping up - food and drinks etc. we always put out boy in his room when we have a meal or snack because he cannot control himself around food. He is obsessed so rather that lose our food we put him in his room. He understands that and trots off happily.

I had a moment around 4months when I thought i cant do this - its too hard but i persevered and i wouldnt part with him for the world - he is adorable and never grumpy at all.

The nipping/biting stage passed at around the time of the neutering so you shouldnt have to suffer much longer.

Good luck and pm me if you want any other info.

RooBee

Alpha rolls are cruel because pain can be inflicted and the dog has no idea what you are doing or why you are doing it.

The move is based on a flawed theory of how wolves behave. Apart from the fact that domestic dogs are not wolves and do not behave like them, dogs also do know that we are not dogs, the cat/budgie/goldfish is not a dog etc. However, the major flaw in the theory is that and alpha wolf doesn't roll another pack member. He doesn't need to. The subordinate will roll voluntarily infront of the alpha as a submissive gesture.

I briefly went to a training class where the trainer came highly recommended. I saw him advocate alpha rolls to several people to treat 'problem' behaviours. I have two dogs, both weigh in excess of 8 stones. Even if I was of a mind to try to roll one on it's back, I couldn't as they are physically strong enough to resist. I left the class and found one where the trainers were more interested in findinag a method to work for individual dogs than the one-size-fits-all approach favoured by several of the well known 'behavourists' (and I use the term loosely!)

It's nothing more than a recipe for getting your face bitten off if you try it on any dog bigger than a toy breed and it will not teach the dog anything other than that you are not to be trusted.

I_love_my_Pomeranian

Well I have had a response! They are obviously keen to put the record straight! I have stuck it all in - but it is a but long. Sorry it is a bit OT, I feel happeir now ... If you have comment I guess you can just mail them? Again I would appreciate your comments.

Thank You for your enquiry,

If I can address your second point first; It is a legal requirement that we put on our labels the maximum amount of treats that can be given. Therefore this is the information we give. The majority of our customers either use a few treats a day as a reward for their dog or a few handfuls for training or training classes.
All of our treats contain liver powder and only a small amount is needed for taste and to reward the dog and we do, in fact, recommend that you break our treats into small pieces for use.

Now only that horrible phrase ‘meat and animal derivatives’ it’s nasty isn’t it? We are a small family run firm and we have lots of dogs we feed on a natural diet, we know what this phrase can disguise. When the product was first put together we felt there was a need for a healthy treat on the market, one that didn’t have fillers, or nasties such as preservatives or colourings. The ‘meat and animal’ part of our liver treats are Desiccated Liver Powder and Haemoglobin ONLY. We can guarantee that. Sadly three months ago we were contacted by Trading Standards who felt we needed to class our ingredients on our labels and said ‘for those treats put this, this and this across the range’ and we had to follow suit.
The ‘Various Sugars’ are actually only in the medium liver treats and the ingredient is Maltodextrin – this is a naturally occurring sugar found in plants and is used in small quantities to help the treat stick together.
It seems when the new website went live the ingredients were not put on correctly – for this I apologise. I will ensure this gets changed tonight.

Thank you for your feedback, we have recently relaunched and redesigned our labels. The website went live on Jan 1st and we a re carrying out running repairs. We will update the ingredient lists. We will also ensure there is a clear statement saying that the only meat and animal derivatives in our product are desiccated liver powder and haemoglobin, from a trusted source.

I hope this helps, again thank you for your feedback, we welcome all comments good … or bad!

Julie Addington-Barker
Barker and Barker Ltd

G-G_4

I have a Jack Russell crossed with a Beagle.. (I think)

Max is a great dog after 9pm, when he finally falls asleep for the night.

We had him from 5 months old from the RSPCA, so he has always been an attention seeker. He is 6 yrs old now.

Recently i've been starting to make him, and our other older dog home made dog food. Pasta, carrots, meat cuts you don't use, or leftover chicken once the best stuff has been taken off, and gravy. I make a batch of 4 meals at a time. They love them, Max is much quieter now and doesn't get as hyper.

Sometimes I wish he was quieter, especially when we have visitors. But, to be honest, Max is Max and I love him to bits. Don't try and change them. Teach them good manners and get rid of bad habits, but at the end of the day your pup is that type of dog, get used to it because it may be a long time before he slows down. Learn to love his wild style and try to laugh instead of get annoyed at the things you can't change.

Best of Luck x