Dealing with my housing association

martindow

potentialhousebuyer said:

He won’t be allowed a door mat outside his flat door in the communal area

That's not where it is needed is it?  You want a mat at the entrance to the communal area in the hope that he might use it.  The HA can decide this is within the rules if they choose to, I would have thought.

potentialhousebuyer

That’s a question I’ll have to pose to the housing officer on Monday. I’ll report back and let you all know what they say. 

Schwarzwald

marcia_ said:

Personally I would just shrug it off and get out there with a mop. 

 Not the neighbours fault they do a messy job and the housing association won't spend on a daily cleaner nor will they stop him walking in the block or evict him. 

It’s not a job issue, its an attitude issue.

Schwarzwald

potentialhousebuyer said:

It’s a mess.
you are right to be angry if this is regular occassion.
definitely keep a log of the occassions, simple mobile phone pictures with time stamp should suffice.

once you have some dozen photos, reach out to the HA. But i would also think more constructively, how to get him yo agree to taking his boots off. Allow him to leave his house shoes at the front door to change before stepping into the communal area? Or similar

marcia_

Schwarzwald said:

potentialhousebuyer said:

It’s a mess.
you are right to be angry if this is regular occassion.
definitely keep a log of the occassions, simple mobile phone pictures with time stamp should suffice.

once you have some dozen photos, reach out to the HA. But i would also think more constructively, how to get him yo agree to taking his boots off. Allow him to leave his house shoes at the front door to change before stepping into the communal area? Or similar

 Not possible the OP is saying this is against the block rules as set by the HA which is why they are annoyed by the mess. 

 Seems petty to get yourself wound up about some dirt but hey ho 

potentialhousebuyer

marcia_ said:

 Not possible the OP is saying this is against the block rules as set by the HA which is why they are annoyed by the mess. 

 Seems petty to get yourself wound up about some dirt but hey ho 

Petty? Some dirt? 

It’s a bit more than “some dirt”, it’s clumps and clumps of it, all over the hallway and stairs, why should I have to live in such a mess and have to walk through it? Why shouldn’t the tenancy agreement apply to him?

it’s hardly just “some dirt” as you put it. 

sevenhills

potentialhousebuyer said:

Petty? Some dirt? 

It’s a bit more than “some dirt”, it’s clumps and clumps of it, all over the hallway and stairs, why should I have to live in such a mess and have to walk through it? Why shouldn’t the tenancy agreement apply to him?
it’s hardly just “some dirt” as you put it. 

It depends on how you look at this, this dirt is not inside anyone's home, it's outside, but not outside.

The setup with 'carpet' in the communal areas is similar to what I have seen in flats for older people, the over 55s.

Are these flats for older people, where many people don't work and are not coming and going with muddy shoes?

Is this dirty fellow young/old?

potentialhousebuyer

The flats are mixed ages. I’m in my 30s and he is in his 20s I’d guess. The other two people I don’t know exactly their ages. We all work. 

We all still have to walk through the hallway though to get to our flats which means when he has covered it in mud we have to walk through it. 

The simplest solution is he takes his boots off at the main door, issue resolved if he did! 

If I ever get my trainers dirty when out I take them off before entering the building. 

I guess my standards are higher than his. 

I’ll see how I get on with the housing officer tomorrow. 

theoretica

Seems to me that he is considering the hallway as 'outside' his home and you are considering it as 'inside' the building.  I wouldn't want to take my shoes off at the entrance to a block of flats, and need to either carry spares around all the time or walk through the corridor in stocking feet. A door mat does seem a reasonable request, as I doubt there is room for a locker and chair at the entrance.

It would distress me less than the people who leave dog mess on pavements.

sevenhills

theoretica said:

Seems to me that he is considering the hallway as 'outside' his home and you are considering it as 'inside' the building.  I wouldn't want to take my shoes off at the entrance to a block of flats, and need to either carry spares around all the time or walk through the corridor in stocking feet. A door mat does seem a reasonable request, as I doubt there is room for a locker and chair at the entrance.

It would distress me less than the people who leave dog mess on pavements.

The amount of mud that has come off his shoes does not look like just normal walking to his door, unless its several days worth.

I think a piece of cake with a nice note would be the best tactic.