PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.

Buying a house with intent of extending

Hello, I need some hopefully really basic advice!

We are considering buying a 3 bed home, with a view to extending it - likely some kind of double story extension, maybe above garage etc.

How does the process work in terms of planning / pre-planning apps - can we do any of this before we purchase the house?

Should we bring an architect / builder with us for a 2nd viewing before purchasing, to gain their opinion?

I can't get my head around the risk of buying the house, and then being unable to extend, or at least extend as much as we would like.

PS - we can see plenty of other extensions on the same road - so we wouldn't be setting any precedence, nor has the house been extended in anyway either in the past.

Thanks!

Comments

  • user1977
    user1977 Posts: 17,275 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Seventh Anniversary Photogenic Name Dropper
    Good luck in persuading a builder to spend time looking at a house which you might never own! An architect would no doubt spend time on it if you're paying them.

    Checking other extensions (similar houses?) seems a fairly reliable way of knowing what's possible.

    Planners will talk to you whether or not you're the owner, but you may need to pay (and wait) for pre-planning advice.
  • theartfullodger
    theartfullodger Posts: 15,569 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    The agent may well know (different councils, different countries - eg NI, Wales..- have different processes) certainly discuss. Ask them for name of someone local to work with.

    If you eventually get approval and sign off for what you want is not certain - probably for about a year ...ie until plans approved.
  • lincroft1710
    lincroft1710 Posts: 18,628 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    Don't rely on getting PP just because there are already houses on the road with extensions. As has been previously posted, pre purchase planning advice will cost you, but it will be worth it to know whether exactly what you are planning is likely to be approved or not 
    If you are querying your Council Tax band would you please state whether you are in England, Scotland or Wales
  • annetheman
    annetheman Posts: 1,042 Forumite
    Eighth Anniversary 500 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    edited 8 April 2024 at 4:42PM
    Hello, I need some hopefully really basic advice!

    We are considering buying a 3 bed home, with a view to extending it - likely some kind of double story extension, maybe above garage etc.

    How does the process work in terms of planning / pre-planning apps - can we do any of this before we purchase the house?

    Should we bring an architect / builder with us for a 2nd viewing before purchasing, to gain their opinion?

    I can't get my head around the risk of buying the house, and then being unable to extend, or at least extend as much as we would like.

    PS - we can see plenty of other extensions on the same road - so we wouldn't be setting any precedence, nor has the house been extended in anyway either in the past.

    Thanks!
    This is the safest bet at the stage you're at. If you can already see what you want to do, you can consider looking on the council's planning website for previously approved plans + sending an email about your plans to the pre-planning department. You can usually find the email address by emailing the address on the planning website!

    Builders are in such high demand and short supply (a trade once dominated by eastern Europeans, many of whom have left in recent years), it'll be very hard to get one to come around for work they might not do. They don't need to "fish" for work these days, if you like.

    As an aside, as someone who is also buying with intention to extend minimally and has been doing the research, it is a tough call these days. There has also been a huge uptick in costs for labour and materials around 2022, so building now is much more expensive - as in double or more per sqm and double for many materials - than it was before 2022. 

    The best scenario in 2024 seems to be to buy a house that already has the general footprint you want, with minimal structural building work required - decorating and/or reconfig only, do as much as possible yourself. An extension of your size (double story) is going to be extremely expensive in most parts of the country. If you have the £100-200k to do it, it's wonderful to make the house exactly as you want it. If you can stretch to that and buy a bigger house, you'll probably find that cheaper in the long run!

    It's definitely getting harder but if you can do it, it'll be worth it! Good luck!


    Current debt-free wannabe stats:
    Credit cards: £9,705.31 | Loans: £4,419.39 | Student Loan (Plan 1): £11,301.00 | Total: £25,425.70
    Debt-free target: 21-Feb-2027
    Debt-free diary
  • BobT36
    BobT36 Posts: 594 Forumite
    Fifth Anniversary 500 Posts Name Dropper
    It's probably worth checking that what you want to do is POSSIBLE now, but have it all fully planned out only once you own.
  • Section62
    Section62 Posts: 9,166 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Fourth Anniversary Name Dropper

    PS - we can see plenty of other extensions on the same road - so we wouldn't be setting any precedence, nor has the house been extended in anyway either in the past.

    This is the safest bet at the stage you're at. If you can already see what you want to do, you can consider looking on the council's planning website for previously approved plans + sending an email about your plans to the pre-planning department. You can usually find the email address by emailing the address on the planning website!

    Unfortunately it really isn't.

    You won't know (just by looking) whether the work had planning consent, and if it did, whether the same planning consent would be granted now.  Each case is looked at on its own merits, having regard to the planning policy which is applicable at the time the decision is made.

    Because planning decisions are made on a case-by-case basis, they don't usually set a precedent.

    Pre-application advice is probably the way to go - although even this doesn't guarantee that consent will be given when a full application is made.  However, it is now unlikely councils will give free pre-application advice, and they probably won't respond to email enquiries.
  • AlexMac
    AlexMac Posts: 3,063 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    The Planning Portal will be helpful on permitted development-

    https://www.gov.uk/planning-permission-england-wales/when-you-dont-need-it

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/permitted-development-rights-for-householders-technical-guidance

    (or copycats such as https://www.planningportal.co.uk/permission/common-projects/extensions/planning-permission)

    Homebuilding & Renovating magazine's online search facility will help with articles on ideas, feasibility and (possibly out of date) costs -
    https://www.homebuilding.co.uk/search?searchTerm=Extensions

    Some Council planning websites also help; my own local Council has helpful online "Supplementary Planning Documents" to indicate what they are likely to agree if you do want to exceed Permitted Development with a Planning Application...





Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 349.8K Banking & Borrowing
  • 252.6K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453K Spending & Discounts
  • 242.7K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 619.5K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 176.3K Life & Family
  • 255.6K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 15.1K Coronavirus Support Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.