My house is not register in land registry

housebuyer143

gheorghian1993 said:

housebuyer143 said:

gheorghian1993 said:

housebuyer143 said:

Hoenir said:

housebuyer143 said:

gheorghian1993 said:

housebuyer143 said:

So reading all this - is there a reason you don't want them to have access over the driveway? It's not maybe what you agreed to, but they will give you £15k and pave you a new driveway. I'm exchange it seems the new plot will be able to drive over your drive to get to the house. 
Agreeing to this would resolve your problem it seems. Not sure what suing the seller will do because it doesn't sound like he's being dishonest and it's the solicitors who have screwed up. 

If I will give the acces to my acces way there will be a potential big development behind my house and I don’t want my land be as a subway , because that’s what would eventually be happen I need the sefty for my sick son and have my piece and quite 

I see and understand. The seller seems to have you to ransom as I don't see him agreeing to the amended plan because I didn't seem though this was what he wanted. 

Im not sure the solution tbh. The solicitors seem to have screwed up so should be liable for your losses, but they are not likely to be able to get the seller to agree to something they don't want to. Is there a way you can meet in the middle with the seller and come to a compromise because as I read it that's really going up be the only way to move it forward without costing you money.

Were you aware of this proposed development at the time of purchasing the property. The fact that you are receiving direct contact suggests the other party is getting desperate themselves to resolve the matter. I'd be wary of their apparent reconciliatary manner. There's undoubtably large sums at stake. Niceness can soon evaporate. 

Agreed. I would probably ensure any action you take is done so through solicitors so they can ensure it's all correct and above board. Personally I still think your original one should fix the issue they created but it might be you need to use someone else, to resolve it, then calculate your losses (be that on property value, time, stress etc) and sue them afterwards, assuming you can show they were at fault. 
As this poster says, were you aware of the development behind before you purchased the property? If so, then it should be no surprise it's going behind you and the only surprise should be the access. 

correct , agree but the problem it is that my solicitors have not finished the registration on my property and now to resolve issue they want represent me with sue the seller but until I will not sign the contract they will not tell me what them thoughts and from that point even more I don't trust them as they never even clearly responded to my questions and when the time I was trusted them I forwarded those message from the seller and now they want charge me  for hourly rate plus everything for what they  will do for registering my property and sue the seller but they are the one who failed on that duty and I pay for them service. 

Maybe is a silly question but when I received TP1 with plan attached  to sign with my husband  , are there suppose to be already a seller signature and his wife  ? Because from what I know this form is a transfer from a seller to buyer and need to be Signed by both parts and than sent to the Land Registry 

No, you sign your own and the seller signs theirs and the solicitors check they match and exchange them. You never see get a copy with the sellers signature. Your solicitor didn't check the plan matched so it's their fault I would say. 
I do think you need to pursue the solicitor once you resolve this but you either need to convince them that this extra work is still in the remit of the registration or you need to find someone else to sort it and then pursue them at a later date. 

I hope you can resolve it.

you are very knowledge person , 

thank you so much for your help , 

Yes, I really do hope so , is defiantly my solicitors fault as they suppose to check the Tp1 if they match exactly the same... 

I hope my nightmare will be soon resolved and i still believe and hoping that Ombudsman will help me, 

they told me that my solicitors has ask for dismissing my case but they didn't and soon they will ask me for some more evidence they has told me , not sure what they will ask me ... I still have a faith that they will help me , because if not than I will be not able sue my solicitors anymore ....

Can you do a request for all the information they have from your case? I'm sure under GDPR they need to provide this if you ask and then you can go through it for evidence to see what gone on to supply to ombudsman 

gheorghian1993

housebuyer143 said:

gheorghian1993 said:

housebuyer143 said:

gheorghian1993 said:

housebuyer143 said:

Hoenir said:

housebuyer143 said:

gheorghian1993 said:

housebuyer143 said:

So reading all this - is there a reason you don't want them to have access over the driveway? It's not maybe what you agreed to, but they will give you £15k and pave you a new driveway. I'm exchange it seems the new plot will be able to drive over your drive to get to the house. 
Agreeing to this would resolve your problem it seems. Not sure what suing the seller will do because it doesn't sound like he's being dishonest and it's the solicitors who have screwed up. 

If I will give the acces to my acces way there will be a potential big development behind my house and I don’t want my land be as a subway , because that’s what would eventually be happen I need the sefty for my sick son and have my piece and quite 

I see and understand. The seller seems to have you to ransom as I don't see him agreeing to the amended plan because I didn't seem though this was what he wanted. 

Im not sure the solution tbh. The solicitors seem to have screwed up so should be liable for your losses, but they are not likely to be able to get the seller to agree to something they don't want to. Is there a way you can meet in the middle with the seller and come to a compromise because as I read it that's really going up be the only way to move it forward without costing you money.

Were you aware of this proposed development at the time of purchasing the property. The fact that you are receiving direct contact suggests the other party is getting desperate themselves to resolve the matter. I'd be wary of their apparent reconciliatary manner. There's undoubtably large sums at stake. Niceness can soon evaporate. 

Agreed. I would probably ensure any action you take is done so through solicitors so they can ensure it's all correct and above board. Personally I still think your original one should fix the issue they created but it might be you need to use someone else, to resolve it, then calculate your losses (be that on property value, time, stress etc) and sue them afterwards, assuming you can show they were at fault. 
As this poster says, were you aware of the development behind before you purchased the property? If so, then it should be no surprise it's going behind you and the only surprise should be the access. 

correct , agree but the problem it is that my solicitors have not finished the registration on my property and now to resolve issue they want represent me with sue the seller but until I will not sign the contract they will not tell me what them thoughts and from that point even more I don't trust them as they never even clearly responded to my questions and when the time I was trusted them I forwarded those message from the seller and now they want charge me  for hourly rate plus everything for what they  will do for registering my property and sue the seller but they are the one who failed on that duty and I pay for them service. 

Maybe is a silly question but when I received TP1 with plan attached  to sign with my husband  , are there suppose to be already a seller signature and his wife  ? Because from what I know this form is a transfer from a seller to buyer and need to be Signed by both parts and than sent to the Land Registry 

No, you sign your own and the seller signs theirs and the solicitors check they match and exchange them. You never see get a copy with the sellers signature. Your solicitor didn't check the plan matched so it's their fault I would say. 
I do think you need to pursue the solicitor once you resolve this but you either need to convince them that this extra work is still in the remit of the registration or you need to find someone else to sort it and then pursue them at a later date. 

I hope you can resolve it.

you are very knowledge person , 

thank you so much for your help , 

Yes, I really do hope so , is defiantly my solicitors fault as they suppose to check the Tp1 if they match exactly the same... 

I hope my nightmare will be soon resolved and i still believe and hoping that Ombudsman will help me, 

they told me that my solicitors has ask for dismissing my case but they didn't and soon they will ask me for some more evidence they has told me , not sure what they will ask me ... I still have a faith that they will help me , because if not than I will be not able sue my solicitors anymore ....

Can you do a request for all the information they have from your case? I'm sure under GDPR they need to provide this if you ask and then you can go through it for evidence to see what gone on to supply to ombudsman 

I just sent an email now to request that. thank you 

Hope they will provide a full copy of information but let see if they will respond to my email. 

gheorghian1993

gheorghian1993 said:

housebuyer143 said:

gheorghian1993 said:

housebuyer143 said:

gheorghian1993 said:

housebuyer143 said:

Hoenir said:

housebuyer143 said:

gheorghian1993 said:

housebuyer143 said:

So reading all this - is there a reason you don't want them to have access over the driveway? It's not maybe what you agreed to, but they will give you £15k and pave you a new driveway. I'm exchange it seems the new plot will be able to drive over your drive to get to the house. 
Agreeing to this would resolve your problem it seems. Not sure what suing the seller will do because it doesn't sound like he's being dishonest and it's the solicitors who have screwed up. 

If I will give the acces to my acces way there will be a potential big development behind my house and I don’t want my land be as a subway , because that’s what would eventually be happen I need the sefty for my sick son and have my piece and quite 

I see and understand. The seller seems to have you to ransom as I don't see him agreeing to the amended plan because I didn't seem though this was what he wanted. 

Im not sure the solution tbh. The solicitors seem to have screwed up so should be liable for your losses, but they are not likely to be able to get the seller to agree to something they don't want to. Is there a way you can meet in the middle with the seller and come to a compromise because as I read it that's really going up be the only way to move it forward without costing you money.

Were you aware of this proposed development at the time of purchasing the property. The fact that you are receiving direct contact suggests the other party is getting desperate themselves to resolve the matter. I'd be wary of their apparent reconciliatary manner. There's undoubtably large sums at stake. Niceness can soon evaporate. 

Agreed. I would probably ensure any action you take is done so through solicitors so they can ensure it's all correct and above board. Personally I still think your original one should fix the issue they created but it might be you need to use someone else, to resolve it, then calculate your losses (be that on property value, time, stress etc) and sue them afterwards, assuming you can show they were at fault. 
As this poster says, were you aware of the development behind before you purchased the property? If so, then it should be no surprise it's going behind you and the only surprise should be the access. 

correct , agree but the problem it is that my solicitors have not finished the registration on my property and now to resolve issue they want represent me with sue the seller but until I will not sign the contract they will not tell me what them thoughts and from that point even more I don't trust them as they never even clearly responded to my questions and when the time I was trusted them I forwarded those message from the seller and now they want charge me  for hourly rate plus everything for what they  will do for registering my property and sue the seller but they are the one who failed on that duty and I pay for them service. 

Maybe is a silly question but when I received TP1 with plan attached  to sign with my husband  , are there suppose to be already a seller signature and his wife  ? Because from what I know this form is a transfer from a seller to buyer and need to be Signed by both parts and than sent to the Land Registry 

No, you sign your own and the seller signs theirs and the solicitors check they match and exchange them. You never see get a copy with the sellers signature. Your solicitor didn't check the plan matched so it's their fault I would say. 
I do think you need to pursue the solicitor once you resolve this but you either need to convince them that this extra work is still in the remit of the registration or you need to find someone else to sort it and then pursue them at a later date. 

I hope you can resolve it.

you are very knowledge person , 

thank you so much for your help , 

Yes, I really do hope so , is defiantly my solicitors fault as they suppose to check the Tp1 if they match exactly the same... 

I hope my nightmare will be soon resolved and i still believe and hoping that Ombudsman will help me, 

they told me that my solicitors has ask for dismissing my case but they didn't and soon they will ask me for some more evidence they has told me , not sure what they will ask me ... I still have a faith that they will help me , because if not than I will be not able sue my solicitors anymore ....

Can you do a request for all the information they have from your case? I'm sure under GDPR they need to provide this if you ask and then you can go through it for evidence to see what gone on to supply to ombudsman 

I just sent an email now to request that. thank you 

Hope they will provide a full copy of information but let see if they will respond to my email. 

Hi , 

it has been 10 days and my solicitors haven't responded to my email, do I need to do anything ?

lincroft1710

gheorghian1993 said:

gheorghian1993 said:

housebuyer143 said:

gheorghian1993 said:

housebuyer143 said:

gheorghian1993 said:

housebuyer143 said:

Hoenir said:

housebuyer143 said:

gheorghian1993 said:

housebuyer143 said:

So reading all this - is there a reason you don't want them to have access over the driveway? It's not maybe what you agreed to, but they will give you £15k and pave you a new driveway. I'm exchange it seems the new plot will be able to drive over your drive to get to the house. 
Agreeing to this would resolve your problem it seems. Not sure what suing the seller will do because it doesn't sound like he's being dishonest and it's the solicitors who have screwed up. 

If I will give the acces to my acces way there will be a potential big development behind my house and I don’t want my land be as a subway , because that’s what would eventually be happen I need the sefty for my sick son and have my piece and quite 

I see and understand. The seller seems to have you to ransom as I don't see him agreeing to the amended plan because I didn't seem though this was what he wanted. 

Im not sure the solution tbh. The solicitors seem to have screwed up so should be liable for your losses, but they are not likely to be able to get the seller to agree to something they don't want to. Is there a way you can meet in the middle with the seller and come to a compromise because as I read it that's really going up be the only way to move it forward without costing you money.

Were you aware of this proposed development at the time of purchasing the property. The fact that you are receiving direct contact suggests the other party is getting desperate themselves to resolve the matter. I'd be wary of their apparent reconciliatary manner. There's undoubtably large sums at stake. Niceness can soon evaporate. 

Agreed. I would probably ensure any action you take is done so through solicitors so they can ensure it's all correct and above board. Personally I still think your original one should fix the issue they created but it might be you need to use someone else, to resolve it, then calculate your losses (be that on property value, time, stress etc) and sue them afterwards, assuming you can show they were at fault. 
As this poster says, were you aware of the development behind before you purchased the property? If so, then it should be no surprise it's going behind you and the only surprise should be the access. 

correct , agree but the problem it is that my solicitors have not finished the registration on my property and now to resolve issue they want represent me with sue the seller but until I will not sign the contract they will not tell me what them thoughts and from that point even more I don't trust them as they never even clearly responded to my questions and when the time I was trusted them I forwarded those message from the seller and now they want charge me  for hourly rate plus everything for what they  will do for registering my property and sue the seller but they are the one who failed on that duty and I pay for them service. 

Maybe is a silly question but when I received TP1 with plan attached  to sign with my husband  , are there suppose to be already a seller signature and his wife  ? Because from what I know this form is a transfer from a seller to buyer and need to be Signed by both parts and than sent to the Land Registry 

No, you sign your own and the seller signs theirs and the solicitors check they match and exchange them. You never see get a copy with the sellers signature. Your solicitor didn't check the plan matched so it's their fault I would say. 
I do think you need to pursue the solicitor once you resolve this but you either need to convince them that this extra work is still in the remit of the registration or you need to find someone else to sort it and then pursue them at a later date. 

I hope you can resolve it.

you are very knowledge person , 

thank you so much for your help , 

Yes, I really do hope so , is defiantly my solicitors fault as they suppose to check the Tp1 if they match exactly the same... 

I hope my nightmare will be soon resolved and i still believe and hoping that Ombudsman will help me, 

they told me that my solicitors has ask for dismissing my case but they didn't and soon they will ask me for some more evidence they has told me , not sure what they will ask me ... I still have a faith that they will help me , because if not than I will be not able sue my solicitors anymore ....

Can you do a request for all the information they have from your case? I'm sure under GDPR they need to provide this if you ask and then you can go through it for evidence to see what gone on to supply to ombudsman 

I just sent an email now to request that. thank you 

Hope they will provide a full copy of information but let see if they will respond to my email. 

Hi , 

it has been 10 days and my solicitors haven't responded to my email, do I need to do anything ?

Phone them and politely ask why they haven't responded?

gheorghian1993

lincroft1710 said:

gheorghian1993 said:

gheorghian1993 said:

housebuyer143 said:

gheorghian1993 said:

housebuyer143 said:

gheorghian1993 said:

housebuyer143 said:

Hoenir said:

housebuyer143 said:

gheorghian1993 said:

housebuyer143 said:

So reading all this - is there a reason you don't want them to have access over the driveway? It's not maybe what you agreed to, but they will give you £15k and pave you a new driveway. I'm exchange it seems the new plot will be able to drive over your drive to get to the house. 
Agreeing to this would resolve your problem it seems. Not sure what suing the seller will do because it doesn't sound like he's being dishonest and it's the solicitors who have screwed up. 

If I will give the acces to my acces way there will be a potential big development behind my house and I don’t want my land be as a subway , because that’s what would eventually be happen I need the sefty for my sick son and have my piece and quite 

I see and understand. The seller seems to have you to ransom as I don't see him agreeing to the amended plan because I didn't seem though this was what he wanted. 

Im not sure the solution tbh. The solicitors seem to have screwed up so should be liable for your losses, but they are not likely to be able to get the seller to agree to something they don't want to. Is there a way you can meet in the middle with the seller and come to a compromise because as I read it that's really going up be the only way to move it forward without costing you money.

Were you aware of this proposed development at the time of purchasing the property. The fact that you are receiving direct contact suggests the other party is getting desperate themselves to resolve the matter. I'd be wary of their apparent reconciliatary manner. There's undoubtably large sums at stake. Niceness can soon evaporate. 

Agreed. I would probably ensure any action you take is done so through solicitors so they can ensure it's all correct and above board. Personally I still think your original one should fix the issue they created but it might be you need to use someone else, to resolve it, then calculate your losses (be that on property value, time, stress etc) and sue them afterwards, assuming you can show they were at fault. 
As this poster says, were you aware of the development behind before you purchased the property? If so, then it should be no surprise it's going behind you and the only surprise should be the access. 

correct , agree but the problem it is that my solicitors have not finished the registration on my property and now to resolve issue they want represent me with sue the seller but until I will not sign the contract they will not tell me what them thoughts and from that point even more I don't trust them as they never even clearly responded to my questions and when the time I was trusted them I forwarded those message from the seller and now they want charge me  for hourly rate plus everything for what they  will do for registering my property and sue the seller but they are the one who failed on that duty and I pay for them service. 

Maybe is a silly question but when I received TP1 with plan attached  to sign with my husband  , are there suppose to be already a seller signature and his wife  ? Because from what I know this form is a transfer from a seller to buyer and need to be Signed by both parts and than sent to the Land Registry 

No, you sign your own and the seller signs theirs and the solicitors check they match and exchange them. You never see get a copy with the sellers signature. Your solicitor didn't check the plan matched so it's their fault I would say. 
I do think you need to pursue the solicitor once you resolve this but you either need to convince them that this extra work is still in the remit of the registration or you need to find someone else to sort it and then pursue them at a later date. 

I hope you can resolve it.

you are very knowledge person , 

thank you so much for your help , 

Yes, I really do hope so , is defiantly my solicitors fault as they suppose to check the Tp1 if they match exactly the same... 

I hope my nightmare will be soon resolved and i still believe and hoping that Ombudsman will help me, 

they told me that my solicitors has ask for dismissing my case but they didn't and soon they will ask me for some more evidence they has told me , not sure what they will ask me ... I still have a faith that they will help me , because if not than I will be not able sue my solicitors anymore ....

Can you do a request for all the information they have from your case? I'm sure under GDPR they need to provide this if you ask and then you can go through it for evidence to see what gone on to supply to ombudsman 

I just sent an email now to request that. thank you 

Hope they will provide a full copy of information but let see if they will respond to my email. 

Hi , 

it has been 10 days and my solicitors haven't responded to my email, do I need to do anything ?

Phone them and politely ask why they haven't responded?

I have done alle that , and no respond .... 

The ombudsman have comeback to me say that the reason of dismissing my case is that :


 '' The firm have stated that the seller’s solicitors completed a new transfer deed that

was not sent to the firm for approval. They’re saying that the error was made by the

seller’s solicitor and that the firm was not made aware of this and was not given the

chance to correct the error before everything was sent to Land Registry. '' 

I have 7 days to disagree with that and show the proof  why ombudsman should not dismiss my case 

My solicitors have sent an application to the Land registry after a 1 month I received my keys.. after 1 year later I contacted them asking for my Land Registry documents they responded to me that due the Covid 19 all delays... 


After a while the seller have contacted me directly to discus a accessway  and that's how i founded out 1 year and half later that i singed different plan than him ... than I complain to my solicitors and after a while my solicitors didn't respond to the Land registry so Land registry cancelled my application and now they saying to ombudsman that they don't had a chance to correct the mistake but I was the one who told my solicitors about 2 different plans and from that the have stop helping me and start ignoring 

What is the best  to do ? 






  

sheramber

Your solicitor is saying that they  did not see the new plan that the seller signed so did not know two different plans  were submitted until the Land Registry highlighted it. 

Due to covid delays Land Registry had long delays in dealing with registrations.Hence the delay in it coming to light. 

 the seller  signed a different plan without your solicitor knowing as they did not see what was submitted to land registry.

So, they are not at fault for the different documents being submitted.

your solicitor cannot contact your seller about this as the seller is not their client.  They can only contact the seller’s solicitor.

They may have  needed answers from the seller to answer the Land Registry questions but did not get them. 

You  are now at stalemate as it appears the seller won’t sign a correct document.

Your solicitor considers the way forward is to sue the seller for submitting a false form.

He has passed the case to a colleague to deal with this. 

gheorghian1993

Hello , 

I have received my full file from my solicitors and is look like  the seller solicitor has been negligence because 
1. the form of TP1 was not done correctly , and was witnessing  wrongly ( only by 1 witness ) 
2. the plan looks like was amended - different the one which  I have signed 

maybe is a silly question but I'm confused , 

My solicitor on the emails was saying to the seller solicitors that they have been in breach and if they will not fix and cover fees my solicitors will report them to the SRA  etc... but in the end they have give ma contract to sue a seller for dishonesty not a seller solicitors. 

My case is with ombudsman , my solicitors has ask them to dismiss my case but after reviewing again with the proof what I have provided they decided to do not dismiss and now they have transfer for the full investigation. 

is there any help quicker than ombudsman ? free of charge ?  it has been already like 2 years and half and I'm not register in the land registry as my application has been cancelled as my solicitors has failed to respond  to the requisition given by land registry